Why are you against Ward-GGG fight?

I'm not against it. I'm just realize it makes absolutely zero sense for them to do it right now.

 

whats wrong with this forum? you can type the whole day , guys forget everything what were explained and wrote 2 minutes ago.

for the last time: ggg wants to unify all the belts at 160. after that there is a possibilty to move up. right now he has a big ppv fight coming, after that the next ppv fight is coming against canelo or maybe cotto. after that andy lee.

based on a reasonable logic the whole ward ggg topic is stupid and completly pointless.

it would be good matchup but right now it`s absolutly not necessary to waste thoughts about this fight.

 

GGG called Ward out for 3 years, while Ward rather became a commentator (also for a GGG fight) and fought Rodriguez when GGG was free.

Now GGG wants to focus on MW and suddenly Ward comes back, calling out a MW while he's a LHW who also ducks Kovalev and Stevenson. He even became cheeky after GGG signed a fight with Lemieux, he gained real self confidence when he knew GGG won't fight him 2015 anymore.

I want to see Golovkin fighting, not begging for a fight with Ward who would never step into the ring with him anyway.

 

If no one can beat GGG under 160 according to his fans why not take on a challenge?

-Such as... who, Lara? He's not allowed on HBO, Golovkin is exclusive to HBO just like Kovalev. Canelo will be a challenge as he weighs the same as GGG on fight night and has better skills than anybody Golovkin's faced up to now.
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If it's about creating a legacy why not take the biggest legacy fight out there for him?

-Golovkin is not 'outgrowing' his division and he's not cutting weight like BHop used to do at 160. So, given those two points his idea of a legacy is to eventually get to BHop's record by fighting 3-4 times a year. Hagler had smaller marquee guys come to him, just like Canelo is on Golovkin's radar. Ward can shoot for legacy by going to LHW because he's cleaned out SMW. Golovkin has a few fights to go to claim the same and be ready to move to SMW if he decides the BHop record is not something he wants.
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If it's about money a Ward fight is the 2nd biggest payday available, in what reality are fights with Lemiuex, Lee-Sanders winner bigger than a fight with Ward?

-They're not, although Lemieux actually sold PPVs in Canada in his last fights. Ward doesn't have the drawing power to equal the risk associated with fighting him... he's the exact opposite of Chavez Jr, who rrepresents a no-risk, big payday guarantee. From a promoter's perspective, you must be pretty desperate to 'want' a Ward fight - who can't sell more than 4K tickets outside of Oakland, and the Cali taxes are preeeeeetty high I hear.
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I'm not even a Ward fan I like Kovalev over Ward but think there fight is 50/50, but GGG became relevant because of the claim that everybody between 3 divisions was ducking him. Even during his promoter issues Ward and Gossen said back in 12" that if GGG wanted a fight they'd put their differences aside and make it.

-Unfortunately you can't believe the Ward/Goossen quote from that period, since Ward got a big zero fights throughout. Kessler made them a generous offer to come to Denmark, Ward & Goossen passed on it - look it up. The 154 to 168 was a statement made in the Fall of 2012, as soon as they were able to get a Macklin type in the ring their focus shifted to 160 unification a la BHop. It's all marketing, Froch and Chavez Jr could have made Golovkin a ton of cash (as opposed to Ward) which is why they were considering those fights.
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What's up with he excuses? A fight would Ward would not effect his standing or titles at MW so win or lose he can continue there if he so desires. Money wise Ward is a way bigger money fight than Lemiuex or Monre so that excuse is lame.

-It would affect his weight, because you don't go up one division to fight the best there right away - don't take my word for it, Virgil Hunter said that. You "need about a year to settle at the weight", and Ward is not fighting Kovalev in his first fight at the weight - he wants two post-Smith tune-ups, making it a hefty 3 tune-ups following his comeback. Golovkin didn't need to build muscle to 168 to fight Junior or Carl, they're not as big a risk as Ward.
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Why are so many GGG fans against or afraid of Ward?

-I don't think they're afraid of Ward, they just want Golovkin to build that muscle up to 168 before he actually gets in the ring with an inside mauler. As far as being "against" Ward, it's pretty clear now that Andre says a lot of BS in the media, case in point being that this supposed offer for a 50/50 split in 2016 was actually sent to K2 after the Lemieux fight was announced. Ward's brand pales in comparison to Golovkin's stock, so to even suggest a 50/50 split is very arrogant.

 

"Real talk it doesn't take a genius to see that the only reason Ward is about to move to LHW is because one of the 2 guys he said he wanted to fight is afraid to fight him."

Or because the guy is headlining his own PPV and is mandated to get the Canelo/Cotto winner for the WBC title which is something he's been chasing since 3 years ago while Ward is fighting legitimate bums and drawing absolutely no views and no attention (other then when Ward has GGG's name in his mouth).

Honestly, GGG can get the WBC title against Canelo in a mega-event where it'd be a HUGE fight and send him to crossover s****om, MAJOR PPV.

OR

He could completely abandon that opportunity to go up to 168 for first time in his career, abandon all his goals at 160 to deal with Ward and his ridiculous demands of asking for 50/50 even though he is completely forgotten and not a draw.

Golovkin's team would be stupid to do any association with Ward right now with the other opportunities that they have. It doesn't make sense.

 

Because they know Ward will give GGG that work and they don't want him to stop the GGG hype train.:deal

 

If all he wanted to do was just to unify then when was he seeking out fights with JCC Jr at 168 and Froch at 168?:deal These guys don't have a belt at 160 for him to unify with.:deal And don't come at me because it's about the money with them because if that's the case why is he trying to just unify when it's convenient you can't have it both ways.

 

GGG wanted a) unification or b) PPV fight


Chavez was a big PPV fight reason why they were willing to go up. How many times does it have to be said.

 

boxing fans are not against Ward- GGG

Golov****s are. ****ing pos fanboys haha
they are scared ggg gets outboxed and destroyed like Mathysse a few days ago.
always using kovalev as bodyguard and the bumland titles

 

He can't have it both ways. Either you want to stay at 160 and unify or you want to move up to chase big fights. Also Ward at 168 was a big fight and would have done well better than Lemieux on PPV that's for damn sure and would have meant more legacy wise than any other fight he could have period.