Why Are You Brits So Concerned With How Many Tickets Saturdays Fights Sells?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by acb, Apr 18, 2008.


  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I'm reading that the U.S. is a disgrace and that we should be ashamed of not selling more tickets. What is your point?

    This is a cultural difference, there are very few sporting events that sell as many tickets as you sell for events in European countries. This doesn't signify that we aren't good fans or don't care about boxing. It just means that we don't equate sporting events with places we have to be live in person. Most would rather save their money, and watch the event at home with family and friends.

    There is a lot of nationalistic bull**** coming into this fight from your side (from some posters, like Rusty Craver) that lacks class. It smacks of arrogance, and to be honest its the same type of arrogance that you criticize the U.S. for.

    Lets grow up and enjoy the fight. When I watch this Saturday the last thing I will be thinking of is your country or mine.
     
  2. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    THey know their boy is going to get that ass whooped Saturday, so they are trying to find small victories, such as we would have sold out the arena if the fight was in the UK. You know insignificant **** to make them feel better.
     
  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is it 'insignificant'. the whole show is a better event with more fans there, simple as that. Also after years of beign called a homeboy, Joe Calzaghe travels but has nobody to fight in front of other than 6000 Welsh boys who would have watched him at home as would an extra 44,000...
     
  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    sorry i cant agree with you

    USA is becoming more ***** by the year... you have the best middleweight of our era against the best supermiddle of our era fighting for the light heavyweight championship and its getting NO coverage, and selling little tickets.

    They can say whatever they want about us because its true.... US doesnt care about boxing anymore.

    Theyve been hounded since day one about coming over to the 'us' to fight, and blah blah blah... when they get here, there has to be price cuts, there is no support for the fight, ect, ect... and we want them to swallow that?

    US is embarresing when it comes to boxing, to me
     
  5. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Who cares who he fights in front of? I can't remember a single fighters victory being enhanced because of who he fought in front of, or how many tickets sold. At the end of the day its the two men in the ring that matter, and nothing else.
     
  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Kirk, you know this is more complicated than that.

    He is an old man, fighting an unknown man who hasn't fought here enough in his career to draw fans himself.

    This isn't about the US. Its a simple equation:

    43 year old man fighter with increasingly uneventful style and who has pissed of the boxing establishment a million ways
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    relatively unknown entity who hasnt fought enough outside of his home country to have a fan base here
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    Few tickets sold
     
  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I can see your point acb... true enough.

    Though i would say that its not just this fight that has poor us support....

    Cotto vs Mosley only did what.... 400k???

    im sorry but to me thats horrible.... not when the AVERAGE UFC event is getting that much, and this is Cotto vs Mosley we are talking about. two arguably top 10 guys in the sport.


    The FACT that JC is NOT known in the US to me is embarresing.... im just disgusted with the shape of US boxing and this news highlights that to me.


    But i know what your saying, the reason for the poor outcome is its hopkins vs JC, but the fact that it ISNT bigger, to me, calls for outcry. Its the media, its boxing and its poor management, and its the US people whod rather watch basketball or UFC then a boxing match.

    idk im just bitter about it all... lol.. sorry. but i know what your saying.
     
  8. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunately, as we all know, boxing in the US is dying on its feet. There is no doubt about it. I don't know why people are getting upset about it, or about the fact that if staged in the UK, 100,000 seats would have been sold. Let's look forward to a great fight and hopefully prove the doubters of boxing wrong.
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I absolutely agree with you Kirk that boxing's status isn't where I want it to be. My problem is with those who act as if we are a disgrace based upon these numbers alone.
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    The fight means more to Brits than it does to Americans, and more to Joe's fans than to Bernard's. Bernard has had more legacy making events to speak of. His fans aren't pinning their memory of him on a fight with Joe at this age.

    Joe on the other hand, is coming to the US for the first time, and its seen as a more monumental event (right or wrong) for his career and shutting up the doubters.
     
  11. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree but doesn't the fight look good to neutrals or real fans of boxing. I can't wait for the bell to ring.
     
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :good
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. The blanket statements are dangerous and to further the issue pretty stupid if ya ask me.

    It's a guy nobody likes in Bernard Hopkins against a guy nobody knows in Joe Calzaghe. Calzaghe/Kessler was the lowest rated boxing event of all time on HBO, Hopkins/Wright IIRC was a PPV flop.

    It's not surprising to say the least.

    They had to bring race, country, 5 months worth of dissing and a countdown video together to cover up for this...yet......it's only sold 6000 tickets.

    Hopkins just isn't liked.
     
  14. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If it doesn't matter where they fight why didnt hopkins earn a shitload more money fighting at the millenium or wembley.

    They could have put it in NYC for the italian connection or near philly.

    I think this fight has been promoted terribly
     
  15. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I'm intrigued by the fight. I rewatched the Lacy fight last night and my admiration of Joe was reaffirmed. At the same time, Bernard is a tricky ******* and I can't wait to see whats up his sleeve. But only as a boxing PURIST would you know these things.

    But if you aren't hard core boxing fan, you don't understand this fight on any level... because you don't know that ring smarts and guile can make up for age (you only understand KO's and hype) and you don't know who Joe is (some pasty white guy from another country).

    Its low numbers seem natural to me, not an indication of us fans in the US. There are plenty of other indications that we as fans aren't the greatest, lets just not get stuck on this.