Why Are You Brits So Concerned With How Many Tickets Saturdays Fights Sells?

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  1. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly I think Vegas is being oversaturated with boxing. It's like every other week there's another show there...and crowds are getting tired of it.

    Wasn't Pavlik/Taylor 2 in Vegas?
     
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  2. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would be pissed off if i spent a grand flying over there and getting a ticket to watch a fight in a half empty arena... could this effect Hopkins? it's all rather embarrasing whatever the reasons
     
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  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Boxing is politics. Joe should have campaigned here a long time ago.

    If he kicked some ass here years ago he would have been able to call his shots. He is at least part to blame.
     
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  4. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    And this is where I disagree. This is a huge ****ing country. The average worker gets a single ****ing week off for vacation (contrary to the six that many European workers get). That means that he gets off at 6:00 PM tonight and has to fly or drive to Vegas. If he lives on the east coast he has to travel 2,000 miles to see a fight with a grandfather aged man and a European he has never heard of.

    Get real, this isn't an embarassment, this is an ordering of priorities that is really all very logical given the larger context.
     
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  5. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No1 wanted to fight him, low reward high risk.

    Hopkins upped the money what 6 hyears ago? that would have been perfect.
     
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  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Ehh, thats coming from his camp. You could easily argue the opposite coming from other camps. The truth is somewhere in the middle, meaning that some fighters may have ducked him and he may have not pushed hard enough to make the most meaningful fights.
     
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  7. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a football (soccer) fan and i travel home and away to watch West Ham United as do thousands of people. My home season ticket alone not including travelling all over the country for away games costs $1600...
    I go all over the shop for fights as well and im hardly rich..

    I think maybe were a bit more sport mad than Americans. It's a cultural thing
     
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  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    This is exactly what it comes down to. People have talked for years that Bernard is no draw, I've even seen posts making fun of him for nobody showing out to his parade in his hometown. Did they think just because this fight involves Super Joe US fans would come flocking?? Not to mention, as you also mentioned earlier, this fight is on free HBO, why spend $250 for the cheapest seat in the house (as well as high travel expenses) when you can enjoy the battle from home in comfort?

    And lastly as you said, Joe is unknown in the US, to non-hardcore fans. This is why people are always saying "If Joe wants accolades from US fans, he should have come over here years ago and earned them".

    Fine summing up post ACB.:yep
     
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  9. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The experience is 10x better in the flesh
     
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  10. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    You've got to realize, this is how it's been for years with Bhop. He's usually boring as hell, although effective.
     
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  11. onceagain

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    :lol: Truth. Why anyone is acting surprised about this is beyond me. Some ****in' tool here going on about how all American boxing fans should go buy a ticket quick is ****ing laughable and shows him to be a goddamn moron. Me going to Las Vegas is about as much of a trip as somebody from Wales, and like I want to go through the effort to see these two fight anyways. **** that, I'll stay here thank you very much.
     
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  12. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Thats been my contention the whole time, its cultural.

    Here in the U.S. its outside the generally defined bounds of what is culturaly acceptable to do some of the things that fans do in other places. Our wives would kill us if we did that much traveling and spending money to watch games. Our employers would fire us if we were anywhere near riots. Now I am not generalizing European fans here, obviously many dont do this, but it seems as if sporting is more accepted as an outlet for recreation there than it is here. Football is the lone exception.

    To be honest, America is becoming a sterile country. I hate that. Whenever I travel to Europe or Latin America, I see people enjoying themselves much moreso than we do here. Too many rules in the U.S. You can't even drink a beer on the beach in California. But I digress...
     
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  13. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair enough
     
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  14. Streets_Of_Gold

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    So what!
    This fight isn't about attendance. It's about Joe Calzaghe trying to gain some respect by actually fighting someone significant before he retires.
    Don't louse up his effort with attendance figures and that other crap.
    After he gets TKO'ed tomorrow, he'll be much better off record wise then he was before the fight.
     
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  15. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about all residents of vegas?
     
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