Why Are You Brits So Concerned With How Many Tickets Saturdays Fights Sells?

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  1. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    This is exactly why I suggest to everyone that they get out and see the world. My trip to Australia for school a couple years back opened my eyes quite a bit. Americans don't have enough fun imo and worry about too much ****
     
  2. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Vegas residents are usually from other cities.
     
  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I completely agree. A lot of Americans reading this would say thats not true, we do have fun. But I challenge you to go look at a place like Rio de Janeiro or just travel to a large city out of the U.S. to see how people in other places party. Entertainement here is watered down and about all the wrong **** here, throwing money around and being someone you aren't.
     
  4. onceagain

    onceagain Active Member Full Member

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    It depends where you are. There are money cities everywhere, but you go to smaller southern cities and life will slow down a fair bit. This probably applies to smaller cities everywhere, but hustle is emphasised much more in the north
     
  5. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    i don't think boxing is dying etc. what i do think is that we have far more things to do with our time as consumers compared to our grandparents.

    more choice plus advances in technology have changed the way we do many things and boxing is affected like anything else.

    for example, boxing arenas used to be packed to the rafters in the olden days. one good reason for that is that it beats listening to the fight on the radio! also with high quality broadcast, why would a family or a bunch of friends want to navigate hours in traffic, bad weather, then contend with drunken hooligans in the the rows in front and behind them etc etc etc. when they can simply watch it in the comfort of their home? and it's cheaper to boot! not to mention replays, closeups, no big head or flags blocking your view etc.

    as for the european thing, i'm sure it has more to do with population density combined with tiny countries in comparison to america or australia where you gotta drive for friggin hours/day/months to get anywhere. also espeically in northen europe, the weather is pretty shithouse most of the time, so people tend to do indoor things like boxing/gymnastics etc. in countries like america or australia where there is a diverse range of climates, people have more choice in what they wanna do. beaches, outdoor activities etc.

    also saturation of the marketplace is lessening interests in many sports. for example take rugby league and cricket. i dont watch them anymore because there's way too much of it. rugby starts earlier and earlier each year and eventually might become a summer sport! cricket is insane now. instead of being a summer sport it is now a 24/7 all year round tour for all teams. our aussie team gets like 1-2 weeks off between tours. it's just rediculous. before i could look forward to winter for rugby, and summer for crcket. now i see it on the tv 24/7 i've lost interest. to me boxing is more quality because i can look forward to roughly 10 big fights per year, plus many lesser fights. that is enough for me. i dont need to see 1 particular fighter fighting every 2 weeks.

    all that combined with more disposable income, means people can switch between various things such as boxing one week, then poker comps the next. tv/tech has allowed for lot of weird and obscure sports/activities to thrive in the limelight.

    back in the grandfolks day, there were way less sports, saturation, and recreational things to do.

    boxing is doing fine. but of course it could be boosted a litte bit if the promoters stopped ****ing around and gave us regular and consistant fights and obviously no more one sided beatings, which makes the fighters look like thugs sometimes.
     
  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Yea I believe that.

    Everyone where I live thinks Los Angeles is the place to be. :tired

    Maybe for the weather and beach, but its got to be the most overated city on earth for the nightlife. Expensive, flashy, fake, closes at 2:00 AM sharp. The women, while beautiful, think they are to be bought at any price.

    The only people who know how to party here are the Latinos, and they are just begging for DUIs (the streets after 2:00AM are full of DUI traps). The club scene is ridiculous, and the people who frequent it don't know any better, and act like its the greatest thing in the world.
     
  7. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bottom line is people can't afford to pay the ticket prices, especially in todays environment. Plus, it's on HBO.
     
  8. onceagain

    onceagain Active Member Full Member

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    Explains why everyone else from ****ing New Jersey is living in North Carolina :lol: goddamn there are a lot of y'all...
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    This is an excellent point. A trip to Vegas, with the flight, hotel, ticket price, etc., would be at least $1,000- $1,500 for two.

    You take the average American, making something like $35,000 to $75,000, with a good percentage of that taken out in taxes, and its no suprise why nobody attends.

    A perfectly valid question for the Brits is how do YOU afford these events? How much are they? What does transportation cost?

    I will be honest. I have been a student and now a graduate student for years now, and don't have a lot of cash. The only live fight I have ever seen was Barrera vs Juarez II. My tickets (one for me and one for my girl) were 75$ each with a "**** you fee" or whatever they call it when you buy it online. The fight was here at Staples, so I just payed for parking and food, and it still cost me about $200 plus. Thats not a lot, but it is for a student who has other bills.

    I'm not sure how much money I would have to make to dedicate a thousand dollars or so to see a fight, a few times a year. But it would have to be a lot.
     
  10. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    EXACTLY. Most people think that you have to spend loads of money to have fun or go to the best night clubs and drop hundreds of dollars and act like the king **** ultimate badass :patsch . Plus women in the states **** me off to no end......like you said in another post most of the good looking chicks you run into at the clubs and bars think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread and won't give the regular Joe who's not flashing money around the time of day. The night life in "most" of the states does not even come close to as fun as Australias imo. I have never been to any other places overseas but I seriously cannot wait to check it out :yep
     
  11. nickthegreek

    nickthegreek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is this true?

    Not trying to start no ****, and i ain't going to come back with some bull**** slagging off the U.S fans, but that can't be right, surely?
     
  12. tays001

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    on the contrary it does make a difference at how the fightis looked at after the fact.

    lets see B-hop the 43 year old legend walks into the lions den the heart of joe Calzaghe , 50,000 plus Fans screaming in Wales pulls off the upsets and beats JOE at home overcomes the hostle enviorment.

    now you see how nice thats sounds

    now flip it the other way JOE goes to vegas beats B-hop infront of 6,000 plus mostly uk fans in vegas.

    or b-hop beats koe in vegas in front of samll crowd doesn't sound to thrilling.

    or JOE smashes Hopkins in front of sold out crowd in at the millenium stadium. dazzles home town with win over legend:thumbsup

    sorry but it makes a world of a difference
     
  13. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does matter. Boxing is a business, like any other sport, and the fact that the casino is going to take a five million dollar hit and that the promoters had to return two million says that this was a poor business decision. Calzaghe has proven to be a draw in Wales, Hopkins isn't a proven draw anywhere, this fight should have taken place in the UK where it would have made the most money.
     
  14. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I disagree. Unless the ring changes dimensions, or it takes place in a cold weather stadium as in other sports, it just doesn't change the charachter of the fight that much.

    And the lions den thing, its overated to me. Its not as if they are fighting the fans. These guys are highly trained fighters who are risking themselves in the ring against other elites. I doubt any number of drunk, fatass fans yelling and holding up signs affects them too much.
     
  15. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I was clearly speaking of legacy (how much each fighter stand to gain for the W), not business.