Why Are You Picking PW To Beat Pavlik/Why Are You Picking Pavlik To Beat PW?

I thinks Paul's greater speed, movement and volume will cause a very late TKO or clear points decision

 

hey man, fair enough :good

i'll first start off w/ this pic to illustrate (literally) my point..

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that's the best lhw in the world, all 180+lbs of him hammering the **** out of kelly just as he did all night. kelly was at a big size/strength disadvantage in this fight (regardless of all the prefight bs of bhop getting ko'd). he won't be at a size and strength disadvantage against pw. kelly will be there to be hit just as he always was. BUT, if you watch this bhop fight again, bhop would crack the **** out of him and kelly would keep coming forward. HOWEVER, if you watch closely, he does pause/blink even if momentarily and that gave bhop the time he needed to pop out and do it all over again. now, if you watch the miranda fight, again pav was there to be hit...BUT, only this time when he was equal to or had the size advantage, those shots wouldnt make him lose his timing. he would get cracked but it wouldnt throw him off and he could execute his own gameplan.

everyone who points out that pav relies heavily on timing and getting his opponent in range do have a valid point. but bhop was so big and strong he could prevent pav from executing whereas i don't think pw can hit nearly as hard as bhop...or miranda...or taylor for that matter.

to answer your question, yes i do believe pw can hit hard enough to get pav's attention. hell even pav admitted that taylor kicked like a mule and i don't think pw hits that hard (not to repeat myself). but that fact doesnt mean that taylor or miranda were able to throw pav's timing off like bhop was.

 

A. Williams is a better Boxer. B. Pavilik hasn't been impressive in quite some time. I thought he got lucky catching Taylor in the first fight and that the second one was a draw. Obviously, the loss to Bernard shows that if experienced fighters go in with a gameplan than can easily best Kelly, who is a very good but basic fighter.

 

Its do or die for Kelly

Im thinking Kelly by KO but im not 100% sure...Paul Williams aint no bum

 

Hops is not a finisher anymore. But he does have power, he's slowed down his output and probably doesn't throw all the muster in his punches all the time. Look at Hops arms and shoulders in that pic.Tito was fine at 160, do you remember what he did to Joppy?

 

In my opinion the differences between the two fighters are clear. I pointed out a number of things in the thread I started where I ask "What does Wiliams have that Pavlik hasn't seen."

Paul Williams is not a mystery or enigma. He is a fairly simple pressure fighter. He uses his height and reach advantages to set up in front of opponents who can't reach him, and then overwhelms them with volume. When he's done punching, he moves to his own right. That's what he does; over and over and over.

His footwork is good, but basic. Put that with his tendency to carry his right down low, and he is a relatively easy target for Pavlik's left hook from outside, and that is probably the most under-rated weapon in KP's arsenal.

Paul's work rate gets a lot of attention. However, his accuracy is really poor. In addition, everytime we've seen KP go with someone who throws a lot, Kelly throws more. Paul's connect rate in a given round rarely rises above 25%. Pavlik's connect rate rarely drops below 35%. The math on this one is simple; the bigger, stronger, more powerful man is going to hit the smaller man harder and more often than the smaller man hits him.

Paul's use of angles also gets to much attention. He routinely leaves himself wide open to shots that come right down the pipe. Kelly Pavlik became middleweight champion of the world throwing straight punches.

So far the build up to this fight looks exactly like the build up to Haglar/Hearns. Tommy could have given Marvin the toughest fight of his career, but he didn't because he was hell bent on knocking Marvin out. Paul is doing the exact same thing.

 

Paul Williams

i think his jab will be a big standout and i think Pavliks chin will crack before Paul's does.

 

Paul's jabatsch

I can only assume you are being sarcastic.

 

Agreed - Paul's jab is a pawing nothing of a punch. The only thing effective about it is the volume at which it's thrown. Pavlik's got a workrate equal to PW's - let's not forget that, and his jab is a thudding jab that does damage over time. Paul is not hard to find in the ring, and cannot touch the ring smarts or savvy of Bernard Hopkins. I didn't expect him to beat Hopkins. But I expect him to beat Williams. Late rounds TKO.

 

After you "Mr. I'm Not Going To Post My Analysis In Public". atsch

 

Actually, if I were training Paul, or any other fighter, for a match with Pavlik, I would tell my guy to stay the **** out of anything that looks like a jabbing contest.

 

Say it in the public forum or STFU! You have NO right to ask or opionions and analysis when you REFUSE to give yours.