Why Are You Yanks So Delusional?

Don't worry mate.

Soon they will all be brainwashed into becoming Cotto-lovers, that guy will be worth millions to some influencial yanks.

One night of Calzaghe nuthuggery by HBO has largely sorted the situation whereby people were picking Hopkins over him. It is amusing Calzaghe will be P4P number one when he is at his closest to being shot.


These people will never realise they are being totally brainwashed by the Anti-European American Boxing media and some even deny the existance of it's influence.

 

some nice american fighjters to replace those though.

diaz/pavlik/williams/dawson

 

I don't know any boxing fans, American or otherwise who would consider Jones or Judah elite fighters and everyone seems to consider guys like De La Hoya and Mosley way past their best but still credible fighters. Most agree that Hopkins is also past his best but is still hanging in there, but all these guys (beside Judah) are greats of their times even if they arent now.

 

Watch the fight of Mosley and Cotto again and tell me who was giving more of his heart to win.
I agree that time has come for younger generation, but Mosley definetly made a point that he had alot left in his tank.
Dont underate older fighters, coz they are the ones who gives prospects their biggest lessons.

 

Thay are not underrating "Old" fighters, bro, they know what happened Sat night. The new breed definitely took over, it's not just Cotto, Hatton but Paulie Malignaggi, Juan Diaz, Nonito Donaire and so on...That façade that Shane would shiver as the young bully would be foaming at his mouth for the tidal motion attack, that Shane would be sprawled on the canvas, stirring and dropped to one knee, that he would shriek, whoosh, run into panic or be saved by Papa Jack was proven wrong... They are making an argument against Great American Fighters of old cause seems they have suffered from sort of disrespect for awhile... As a european, let me emphasize that I take no part of the British antics as much as I wouldn't take on americans calling Top World Class fighters as Calzaghe, Kessler, Abrahams, Hatton, Haye, Witter Euro-Bums, it happened and still it'd be equally condemnable... Shane made a point but he also lost a great opportunity to make it a great moment in his career, he wanted this not to be a boxing match, he wanted to hit Cotto everywhere and at this age, he should have known better - same thing as Wright II and Forrest II, Shane is too brave and stubborn for his own good, Jack doesn't help much either...

 

why must you start **** like this that simply isn't true?

 

I think he means that what you are saying really isnt true at its going to whip up a **** storm when the americans wake up and start replying and its going to further their notion that all brits and europeans must have some big inferiority complex to start this kind of stuff.

 

this, and how many americans truely believe that oscar, zab and roy ****ing jones are still elite?

apart from the huggers and the mentally ill i'd say none.

 

To Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright and now Cotto, Shane moved up from lightweight to fight these guys which is not a shame to lose to. Its better to have lost to great fighters than to sit pretty you a fighters home country and wonder what could have been (calzaghe). Besides, everyone know that the Mosley that lost saturday is not the same Mosley from 6 years ago.

Nobody takes this guy serious, i dont know why you think that Americans think Jones is a credible fighter, just seems like you wanna stereotype just cause hes American.

Do i really have to defend Bhop? You serious bout this one man. The guy is 42 and the recognized LHW champ.

To HOF fighters, Oscar De La Hoya has a better resume than any british fighter in their entire history, and as a part time fighter still gave the #1 p4p all he could handle. No one is saying he is a prime fighter, but we know hes still great enough to compete with the young lions.

No one thinks hes a credible fighter, only a gate keeper, so, again i dont know why you think all americans fell this guys elite.


I usually dont respond to ignorant threads like this but i felt like it today. You seem to subscribe to the "Euro maintain a undefeated record to a list no name bums, then later in their career can say they were the best" school of thought which is ridiculuos. Its about beating the best fighters out there, not beating up tomatoecans and then as a last fight fight a past prime fight to seal your legacy. Calzaghe will never be considered an top ATG, cause his resume is ****. Whats worse about Calzaghe resume is that he fought during a time when they were good fighters out there. He just never fought them, cause he was comfy at home, and its gonna cost him in the history books.

 

Youre way off base on your last point. First of, AA is not a world class fighter, on to your point... Shane is a World class fighter and what he did in taking rematches was what World class fighters do, and both rematches were closer and more competetive. If AA was a world class fighter he would have given Edison Miranda a rematch. While Shane lost to Cotto he gave a good account of himself. Jack Mosley is a great trainer and i didnt know that until i saw the Cotto fight, i mean i knew he was a great trainer due to alotta the advice ive heard him give shane but this saturday it really hit. Jack gave shane the best instructions anyone could have gave Shane, and it showed everything Shane would do something wrong Jack would tell him to change it up and he did so with success, so i dont see why you say Jack doesnt help much.

 

really? better than fighting jack dempsey (MW), tom sharkey, james corbett, james jeffries, 'philadelphia' jack o'brien and jack johnson?