Why Are You Yanks So Delusional?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VIPERMAN, Nov 12, 2007.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto was pretty hyped but not compared to a famous former percieved elite fighter like Mosley., and that will get out of control now. I'm surprised it has taken so long. But many people weren't even aware Cotto could box last week!

    But now the world should in theory go Cotto mad.
     
  2. VIPERMAN

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    its about yanks who do not realise who the real elite fighters in the world are now - so just the uneducated yanks ;) :D
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the problem mate.

    Beating Tarver and Wright is irrelevant. What have they done recently? What weight does Wright fight at usually? He even lost to Taylor, who has since lost. Hopkin's should be outside teh top 10 P4P, that is without doubt.

    He isn't isn't a threat at all to Calzaghe, Kessler, Dawson etc...
     
  4. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Viperman you seem like an ignorant individual.

    You associate American ignorance with the belief that fighters such as Shane and Bernard are still competitive. Well, clearly they still are competitive. Should I associate European ignorance with the belief or rather the state of denial that they are not competitive?

    Shane in most people's eyes just fought a pick'em (or at least very close) fight with the toughest younger fighter in the division.

    And Bernard? Don't even get me started on your notion of him not being competitive. He is the light heavy champ, has taken better competition than Calzaghe in the last years, and has bigger wins on his resume in addition. Does it mean that he beats Joe at this given point in time? No. But can you discount his competitive in such a fight. No.

    RJJ and Tito- I have little interest in the fight. Both should retire. Oscar- Im tired of him too. But Shane and Bernard are still elite fighters, period.
     
  5. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    What have Lacy and Kosta done recently?
     
  6. VIPERMAN

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    your spot on. i don't know whether its ignorance or whether (like you said) that they don't pay any notice of the skills of a fighter till some commentator is drilling it into there heads on hbo. it's called being narrow minded.

    americans (some) just listen to the hype, they don't realise anything exists outside america, i mean isn't the baseball final called the 'world series' when infact only 1 or 2 countries actually compete in it lol.

    cue the 'inferiority complex' comments. :D
     
  7. madpup

    madpup Active Member Full Member

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    This **** works the same way in all countries.....Look at the hype some brits are giving David Haye...as if he has the heavyweight championship in the bag already.

    This has nothing to do with nationality, there are ignorant people everywhere.
     
  8. VIPERMAN

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    very true, david haye is no banker to win an heavyweight title because he has poor defence and a poor chin behind it. his only saving grace could be that the standard of the heavyweight division is at an all time low.
     
  9. VIPERMAN

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    competitive yes, elite no

    you'd be better off if you actually read what i've wrote ;)
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    You said that they are not "relevant" in today's fight game.

    Sorry if I made the drastic leap in thinking that if you think they arenet relevant, they arent competitive. :deal
     
  11. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Good point.

    But I guess somehow that Hatton is plenty relevant. :nut
     
  12. VIPERMAN

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    apology accepted :D

    they are competitive, they just ain't the big scalp's anymore.