Why aren't all talented fighters....

I said he had amateur experience didn't say it was high level what are you talking about and to be fair to davis he is fighting for a world title at only 16 fights which is a good number although I think they have bought him along wrong because from going from a guy with 18 losses to a fight with an undefeated champ in pedraza that's a bizarre move.

Haney should be bought along a bit slowly to make up for his lack of amateur pedigree,I just hate when former olympians like Spence, Andrade, Diaz, Valdez etc are fed cans till they are 20-0

 

Yeah but he won all his national tournaments except one, so it means he has something, Floyd is seeing if he's gunna sink or swim but it's stupid how he's lead up to this moment.

In the case of Haney he was the one who wanted to turn pro early because he just missed the olympics, I guess it's a two edged sword because some people are achieve amazing amateur achievements but fail to replicate it at pro level like Korobov, Frankie Gavin, Audley Harrison, Solis etc but in the other case some people build up padded records and fall at the first hurdle like Amir imam, Hugo Centeno etc.

I guess the promoters/ managers need to assess which fighters need to be bought along slowly and which can be fast tracked.

 

I agree with you your post from the other thread,there should be a steady growth and the promoter/manager should be looking at the amateur experience and performance of his fighter to know when to move them along. I guess this doesn't dispute your point although I should add Cotto lost in all his biggest fights against prime opponents but considering 2 of them are ATG that isn't much of a disappointment.

To your last point Derevyanchenko, Lipinets, Bivol, Beterbiev aren't 2 time good medalists but all of them are fighting b-/c level guys in their respective weight classes in under 10-12 fights whereas there US counterparts are taking 20 fights before reaching that stage.