Why aren't we talking about Edwin Valero vs Juan Manuel Marquez?!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by COOK'D, Feb 17, 2010.


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  1. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats an opinion in on its own if you wanna get technical
     
    lefthook89, Feb 17, 2010
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  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Yeah, for me.
    So engaging me in a conversation is futile.
     
    LukeO, Feb 17, 2010
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  3. box101

    box101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    marquez is one of the greatest counterpunchers of our time an his fight aginst floyd was stylisticly wrong jmm not prototypical attack fighters so dont get it twisted marquez can still fight an with valero be great fight
     
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  4. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well thanks for giving me the heads up, wouldve been pretty pointless to debate with a stubborn mule.
     
    lefthook89, Feb 17, 2010
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  5. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Yeah, almost as pointless as debating a kid who knows jack **** about boxing.
     
    LukeO, Feb 17, 2010
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  6. Contendo

    Contendo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love the idea of the fight, but does Valero bring Marquez the $ at this stage of his career. JMM is one of my favourites and has earned his elite status in the world of boxing and whilst not saying Valero isn't a draw, is he not a big enough draw yet for the deserving $ JMM should receive?

    Tim Bradley vs. JMM at 140lbs. Why isn't anyone thinking or talking this?

    For what it's worth, I can't see past Hatton returning vs JMM in June at a Wembley or City of Manchester Stadium. Big crowd, great PPV numbers = great $ for both fighters.
     
    Contendo, Feb 17, 2010
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  7. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    marquez would beat valero IMO.....come on now
     
    freddy-wak, Feb 17, 2010
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  8. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    Right now, Marquez wins. Probably stops him late in the fight.
     
    boxingfanneato, Feb 17, 2010
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  9. Brutalwayz

    Brutalwayz Active Member Full Member

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    I'm gonna say what all the Mosley haters say bout the Cotto fight, "so don't act like it didn't happen!!"
     
    Brutalwayz, Feb 17, 2010
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  10. COOK'D

    COOK'D Member Full Member

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    Contendo - I think Bradley vs Marquez would be a good fight. I have to admit to being a Marquez fan, and I don't necessarily like a fight with Bradley for him as much as I like Valero. I think internationally Valero vs Marquez would be HUGE and the winner would STAND TALL in the boxing world! Boxing can always use another "adored champion" and I think a win for either guy would do that for them. Atleast for as little or as long as they last.
     
    COOK'D, Feb 17, 2010
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  11. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    You'd have to shave a few years off of Marquez to even make a conversation out of who would win. If Jones-Hopkins can happen then this fight could easily happen. I don't think it'd be competitive, but I know it'd be entertaining. Marquez could probably have a better money fight, and a much better chance of keeping brain cells, chasing Hatton.
     
    David Fanning, Feb 17, 2010
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  12. Rhino718

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    :good
     
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  13. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree, if the weight gain doesnt affect JMM coming down again. Marquez can easily counter Valero who throws crazy combinations but nowhere as complicated as Pac's who gives crazy angles. Id favour JMM at lightweight but any higher and I think he would be a bit slower.
     
    truewarrior, Feb 17, 2010
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  14. COOK'D

    COOK'D Member Full Member

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    That's the outcome I'd bet on right now. I think Marquez can get inside Valero's flurries and "Go swimming without getting wet", as Naseem Richardson advised Shane Mosley to do against Margarito. Marquez has a great way of getting inside his opponents punches, counter punching inside the "eye of the storm", so to speak. Being he just went 12 with Floyd I'm guessing Vegas bookies make him a 3-1 fave. Much closer fight tho, could be a gamblers dream.
     
    COOK'D, Feb 17, 2010
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  15. namcap

    namcap Active Member Full Member

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    This will be a great fight. A very good test for Valero. A very good comeback fight for Marquez. Must see!
     
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