Why Calzaghe will beat Kessler

Well he's got it down right to the judges' scorecards, no point in having the fight then if we already know the outcome.

 

I think this is an excellent post - really spot on. I see the fight going exactly the same way and could even see a late TKO for Calzaghe if things go well in terms of injuries. Kessler can only fight one way whereas Calzaghe is very dynamic in being able to box well and brawl. Joe's fitness and energy levels will also play a part - he'll be busy all night long.

If I'm correct, people will be saying that Kessler was overhyped after the fight which will, once again, discredit Calzaghe. But by then, he'll be ducking Bute.

yesihavearm, much credit to you and that amazing girl in your avatar, who the **** is she? Great norks.

 

Is this Calzaghe's website?

I'm getting tired of all these damn Calzaghe threads. Boxing is not all about JC ONLY folks, lighten up. atsch

 

Although you make some good points, i totally disagree. Calzaghe's list of opponents may be a little better but it means nothing. why? because Kessler is at the stage of his career were he is looking to add big names to his list, he is ready for top opponents, he is in his prime. And you must have some sort of doubt considering calzaghe's last 2 performances against bika and manfredo, he was nothing close to what he was while destroying the one dimensional lacy.

Kessler's last 2 opponents were good challenges for him, they were real fights, although beyer was a bit past it, the fight against andrande was hard and perfect for him to lead up to this, i have seen many fights of both fighters over the last year and although calzaghe's ring craft and movement may be more technical than kessler, kessler him self is a real boxer, he has real skill and is smart, I agree with alot of what you said but there is one thing that i think you are way off with and that is how you think kessler will have no answer for calzaghe's "swarm" style, you say joe will get on the inside and nuetrilize kessler's jab but you also point out kessler's superior power, kessler is smart enough and skilled enough to catch joe if he is going to "swarm" all night and that is were he will get knocked out, joe handled lacy's so called power but kessler is in a different league compared to lacy.

I think it will be a great fight but let's hope it happens first.
but i think joe will meet his match and kessler will be the one who can enforce his style on the fight and win.


hope it happens but if not i want joe to fight mundine

 

any news on this fight.

i've heard nothing since the fight was accepted on calzaghe's side.

seems like the danes got cold feet. :yep

 

I'll give the OP credit, he posted a very intelligent argument for his pick to win the fight. Its nice to read something other than "Kessler sucks" or "Calzaghe is 10x better"
However i stick with my prediction: Kessler wins. I've watched Calzaghe for most of the last ten years...he is a very very good fighter. But i think that he leaves him self open to a good jab. Kessler's jab is going to make the difference in the fight. Remember Calzaghe struggled against Robin Reid. IF you've only seen his fights with Lacy, Bika, and Manfredo you might think JC is better than he really is.

 

Damn... I had hoped we had an objective poster that could tell us how Calzaghe would win. That would be interesting to read. And the same goes of course for the objective posted that could tell us how Kessler would win.

Most of us clearly have a favorite of the two. Personally I think it is a 50-50 fight but I will cheer for Kessler.

Anyway - when you rip Kessler's opponents apart by saying:
Mundine was ok, but besides that he's fought the human punchbag Andrade. A totally shot Beyer, who was never world class to begin with and nothing else"

Then you list Calzaghe's ;ist as :
"Omar Sheika
Mario Veit x2
Evans Ashira (With only 1 hand for nearly the whole fight and still won on a wide margin)
Saiko Bika - Difficult awkward opponent
plus this and this former SMW WBA champ etc."

So Kessler's opponents you are very critical of while Calzaghe's you glorify.

Someone could easily have done the opposite:
"Everyone except Eubank were either old, small or never was anything to begin with, ,
while Kessler's opponents are:
Thobela Several time world champ
Cesar Green - Former World Champ
Anthony Mundine - World Champ
Eric Lucas - former world champ
and so on.."

Now - that would be pretty boring as it would be just as biased as the way you listed it.

It would be nice if someone could paint an objective picture of this fight. I ll go so far as to say the one I know that comes closest is Sean. And I am saying that well knowing that he is british and a fan of Calzaghe. At leaast he genuinely tries to be objective.

 

You want an objective picture of the fight? Calzaghe stays busy on the inside never giving Kessler the room to throw his perfect jab and right hand, busting him up all night. What else is there to say? Kessler will land his money shots about once every two rounds. You can dress it up in five dollar words, but it comes to the same conclusion.

 

Kessler will win.
He doesn't really give you an inch when he fights, and imo, Calzaghe is a bit on the slide (but still good enough to beat nearly all the guys around 168, and 175)

I think Kessler wins a decision here, as his all round game will be enough to keep Calzaghe at bay in order for him to win a UD.

I've been off for a while. Has this fight been signed yet, or are the two promoters still engaged in a pissing contest?

 

Ummm, WHO?

* Bika, Ashira and Veit are laughable jokes. Sorry.

* Brewer and Sheika are JOURNEYMEN at best.

* Richie Woodhall LOST to Marcus Beyer (who YOU yourself said had NO prime to begin with, yet you list someone he beat as being a better opponent for Calzaghe? Umm, WHAT? Beyer had like 15 fights at the time, lol. And this was BEFORE Richie fought Calzaghe. Hmmm...).

* Byron Mitchell was coming off a loss to a retiring 35 year-old Sven Ottke, was perhaps considered the worst of all the champions as 168 at the time he lost to SVEN OTTKE (which was BEFORE Calzaghe), and should have TWO losses to Manny Siaca.

* Robin Reid was only ever considered decent in Britian (perhaps Europe as well), and many of the Britians/Europeans believe he won the fight against Calzaghe (he's done diddly squat since, though).

* That leaves Calzaghe's 2 best opponents as Eubank and Lacy. Eubank was OVER 10 years ago, when Eubank was clearly shot and out of his prime. And Lacy was an inexpierenced, green one-dimensional fighter. Oh, Oh, but everyone rated him as no. 1 before the fight!!! Ummm, SO! What, just because a fighter was overrated before a fight and was exposed means we have to rate him as highly as he was BEFORE he was exposed? I don't really follow. There has been MANY many times in history where a young undefeated fighter was considered MUCH better than he was before he was exposed... And yet the person who exposed them does not get the same credit that Calzghe does for exposing Lacy. Why is that?

Apart from the resume discussion, however, not a bad post. Kessler resume does not really resemble that of a pound for pounder either, although at this stage I think the 168 rankings go:

Champion: Vacant
1. Calzaghe
2. Kessler
3. Mundine
4. Bute
5. Lacy
6. Berrio (based on IBF title)
(These are obviously my person opinion)

Meaning as the no. 1, and champ for TEN (damn TEN) years, Calzaghe's resume SHOULD be 100x bettter than Kessler's... but it isn't. Kessler has been champ for like 2 years, and already is catching up (I'd tip Mundine over Lacy, their respective biggest wins in the past few years). But the thing with Kessler, he is NOT a pound for pounder yet. He has the potential, but needs a win over someone like Calzaghe to get him there. Adding Calzaghe to Mundine, Andrade and Beyer (and being the undisputed champ) would see Kessler perhaps break into the the lower echelon top 10 (with nuthuggers going wild and putting him in top 5).

After all that though, I agree with Deram that this fight is a pick-em. Wouldn't be surprised who won either way, but I am leaning towrads the youth, size, jab, strength and all round fundamental technique of Kessler (his strenghts) to over power Calzaghe (who I feel might be starting to get a little on in age). But with that said, ATM I have Calzaghe no. 1 so realistically he should be favoured to win (in my eyes, anyway).

Sorry for starting to waffle on... :bbb :hi:

 

I think your post was objective but you lean towards calzaghe and i think my post was objective but i lean towards kessler and we both stated why, you can be objective but still have an opinion of who you think will win and thats it. like i said before i think calzaghe has fought a bit more quality so agree with you there, but these are 2 fighters at different stages of there career, you say kessler is a good fighter.. he is more than good, you say calzaghe is a great fighter and most would agree but this will be the time when kessler steps to that level, kessler is about to become a great fighter and calzaghe has been a great fighter i think that will be the difference.

i'm not sure how you can see kessler's fights and think that he can't trouble Calzaghe, that is amazing to me, i have seen joe fight and i'm sure he can trouble kessler just like i am sure kessler will trouble joe, joe will not be effective with his "swarms" against kessler because i don't believe he can seriously hurt him, i like both fighters and i don't think kessler is over hyped at all.

i was even talking to my friends dad who is a big calzaghe fan and he went so far as to say " I hope Joe lets him stick around for a few rounds so we can see a bit of a fight, he is just going to have fun with him" and he was dead serious when he was saying that. i couldn't believe it, joe is not going to have fun with kessler, will be the best fighter joe has faced.

but if the fight doesn't happen all this hypothetical posting for nothing ha

 

Calzaghe wins by UD.

 

calzaghe wide UD. not as close as people expect.