Why Calzaghe will beat Kessler

Kessler is a good fighter and all that..But seriosuly, Calzaghes style can pretty much give anyone fits, and i see him beating Kessler to the punch all night, for a decent decision, not a wide one, but a clear one.

 

:good very good answer

 

True, but Calzaghe has also showed that he can be troubled by opponents of much lesser calibre than Kessler. One thing we know about Kessler is that he will bring his A game to the fight. He will be at his best. I'm not so sure thats the case with Calzaghe. If you look at his resume, it's filled with many inconsistant performances, albeit all wins.

At the end of the day, this thread could clock 4000 pages and we'd still be no closer to finding out who'd win. They need to put pen to paper, and make this fight happen. :deal

 

Yeah really...If Calzaghe is ready, mentally, and physically (he doesnt overlook Kessler) i think he can have it.

 

I don't know whoes feet are cold...

Palle send a 5,5M $ offer to Warren last sunday and hasn't heard anything from Warren since :yep

 

warren accepted palles 5 mill offer didnt he?

 

Who tells Warren that he needs to respond Palle now?

 

Could please try and not resort to opponent-bashing... it's very unfruitfull

As for who wins...

My money are on Kessler - especially if the fight is in Denmark.

I exspect the fight to be close, but I think Kessler's jab, youth and desire is going to win him the fight. Calzaghe is a great fighter no doubt, but I think it's his time to loose this time around. Another big factor is Calzaghe's hands/power - his last fight indicates that his hands can't handle his power anymore. He has gone the distance in 4 out of 6 - and in most cases versus people he'd normally stop. If he breaks his hand(s) and isn't able to hurt Kessler, then it's going to be a long night for Calzaghe

If the fight is in England - which might very well be - then I'll have Calzaghe a slight favouite - based on the Manfredo fight. Not the fact that it was stopped early, but how the spectators went will at his flurries, even though they hit very little - I mean the flurry that "stopped" manfredo had 2-3 hits in it. I don't fear a premature stoppage, but the judges might be swaid to judge in favour of the one whoes hits are magnified by the crowd chearing - even if they don't actually connect

For the ones thinking Kessler is one-dimensional - jab-jab-cross. Well take my word for it - he can do a lot more - just didn't have to do so - yet. In the 12th round versus Andrade he shows us a little about his inside abilities, which I've seen several times in sparring. It's not just a question on Calzaghe getting past Kessler's jab to get on the inside - Kessler will do fine in there too.

The main question here is: How good is Kessler really?

We haven't seen his limitations yet - he has lost about two rounds in his whole career against decent opponents. We know pretty much how good Calzaghe is - although the jury is out on the state of his hands - and he is scary good - no doubt. He is much better then any opponent Kessler has ever faced - no doubt. But the question is - is Kessler also better than anything Calzaghe has ever faced?

I think he is - but only the fight will tell.

Kessler - 117-111 (Denmark) - Kessler SD 115-113, 115-113 & 113-115 (England)

But no mater who wins - I hope it will be close enough to warrent a rematch

 

yep - with a few extra demands it appears. Palle responded with a higher offer.

Palle's first offer wasn't a ready to sign contract - he 5,5M offer is - so this time Warren has to accept for real

But it's kinda funny how the standard are different when it comes to offers.

When Warren went back on his 5M offer - people where saying that Palle/Kessler was ducking Calzaghe for not taking the 3M offer, even though Warren had offered 5M to get Palle to the table. Then when Warren "accepted" Palle's offer Palle/Kessler was again ducking Calzaghe for not answering right away - Now Palle has made a contract-offer for 5,5M $ - a career high payday for Calzaghe - and Warren is yet to answer (got the offer last sunday) - but it's still Palle/Kessler that is ducking Calzaghe... :think

 

Calzaghe will do to Kessler what Mundine did to Green

Seriously - Kessler is a good fighter, but at times he looks plodding and flatfooted, and Calzaghe will show him up with his speed.

UD to Calzaghe.

 

Some good predictions so far, but there's two arguments that keeps being mentioned, which I think doesnt belong in a fightprediction.

1: The resumes. We have to look at there current form and talent and not who they fought in the past. I know it can give an indication, but its hardly worth anything at this moment.
First of, Kessler has been a champ for 2 years and is only beginning to collect some decent heads.
Second, we all know that context and motivations and alot other stuff is a big factor in an actual fight. It doesnt make sense to predict this fight based on who these guys has fought in the past. At best one could use they last 2-3 fights as an indicator, but in that regard Calzaghe doesnt score high, neither does Kessler.

2: Another argument which is pure nonsens, is comparing Kessler to Lacy. Not skillwise, but hypewise. It doesnt make sense to say, "calzaghe will win, because Lacy turned out to be a hype job, and now alot of people thinks Kessler is going to win, so hes a hypejob to".

My personal opinion on the fight is, its going to be very close. Calzaghe does have the tools to counter Kesslers style, but so does Kessler the other way around. You need a good jab to counter a southpaw flurry. So it comes down to who is the best at what they do(surprise. They both have the tools.

I dont agree that Kessler is one-dimensional. Hes a very clever boxer, and hes been trained to keep cool and follow his plan. Hes also very good at timing and he quickly knows how to beat his opponent. That means he doesnt flurry, he doesnt throw to many useless punches, when he throws he hits, and that can be seen as one-dimensional. If one watch the Andrade fight closely, one could see that he can do alot of other stuff, than his famous jab-jab-right. He might not do it at the same rate as Calzaghe, but he does what it takes to win. And if he knows he can win a fight jab-jab-right, then thats what he does. Sticks to the plan, sticks to his best weapon, but if he needs to he can do alot more. Maybe he cant do it as good as his prime weapon, and that is maybe the reason he will loose, but hes not one-dimensional.

And please, yes Kessler moves back alot to avoid getting hit, but please dont say he "stumbles back". Its just BS.

 

It is correct that Kessler haven't shown that much adaptibility in his fights - as he hadn't had to do so. In the Andrade fight we saw some - Andrade was able to push Kessler back and put him under constant pressure. Before the Andrade-fight people where saying that it was the way to beat Kessler - as he always moves strait back and has no bodymovement.

Versus Andrade Kessler showed that he has exellent footwork, when he has to - moving sideways circling and crossing Andrade just about every time.

From what I've seen in sparring Kessler can adapt just fine - hopefully we'll get to see that soon

As for the jab-bite - Reid is the one to give Calzaghe the most trouble - and that was back when Calzaghe had hands to deliever his power - everything Reid does Kessler does better, faster and more precise. Veit is big, slow, timid and has a bad chin - Kessler is none of those. Oh and Veit managed to rock Calzaghe with a jab - imagine what Kessler will do.

Kessler does use bodyshots - he has stopped several opponents with livershots - he didn't versus Andrade because Andrade countered well and Kessler had other options.

as for Kessler getting tired - you got to be kidding! - Kessler had back-problems coming into the Mundine-fight and had done no roadwork for 6 weeks coming into that fight and only 30 rounds of light sparring. He was away from home fighting in Australia in 40 degrease - pretty hot for a Dane. So yes in that fight he showed some lack of fitness - but was still able to beat the very fast Mundine with a good margine.

As for the Andrade-fight - in round 12 he goes onto an all out attack because according to himself he had plenty of energy left. He kept a high pace thorugh the whole fight only slowing a bit down in round 9. Calzaghe was more tired against Bika for instanse than Kessler was at the end of the Andrade-fight.

But yes in a fight versus Calzaghe he'll be making mistakes and get punished for them - but so will Calzaghe.

one final note on Kessler's workrate/fitness - look at his record - he has lost two rounds his whole career - that's also a good indication of a consistant and high workrate

As for the "who beat the best" bla bla - it's kinda comical the way you argue.

You list Kessler's opponents saying how many times they lost - and ignores Andrade of course.

Lets do the same to Calzaghe's

Eubanks - 2 losses - and two more after
Reid - 1 loss (to Malinga - who had 10 losses at the time)
Thornberry - 2 losses - both to no-hopers - both on KO - Calzaghe went the distanse. on a sidenote Mundine stopped him too.
Woodhall - 2 losses - one two no-talent Beyer :yep
Veit - no loses - mostly because he never faced anyone with even a decent record.
Brewer - 8! losses
Mitchel - 2 losses
Lacy - 0 losses - and a very good win!

But yes Calzaghe is ahead on exspirience - no doubt. The downside however is that all these fights seems to have given Calzaghe problems with his hands - it seems they are not able to deliever his power anymore - of his last 6 fights he has only stopped one opponent. (Manfredo was stopped by Calzaghe's power, but by Manfredo's inactivity and the referee - Manfredo was never hurt). In his early carrer he stopped most opponents - also in the amateurs - very impressive.

It will be a classic youth versus exspirience - like when Calzaghe faced Eubanks - or Taylor-Hopkins

As stated above I don't think Kessler will have any fitness problems with Calzaghe.

oh - and Kessler doesn't stumble backwoods - when he moves back he does it with his backfoot down ready to counter and he does that very well.

on cuts??? - why is that? - Calzaghe hasn't got a record of giving people cuts and Kessler has no history of getting any.

We agree Kessler is to win this from the outside - we disagree on Calzaghe fantastic abilities versus a good jab. And as Kessler has never faced anyone as skilled as Calaghe - Calzaghe has never faced a jab as good as Kesslers!

oh and for the record - Kessler has had lots of training versus southpaws - don't worry

 

Oh please blocky, still going down that road. It's getting boring.

If its not worth arguing then dont. Simple as that. Yet your one of the atg most active in the Kess-Calz debate. Apparently alot of other people here doesnt mind arguing, knowledge or not.

 

Amasing how Andrade didn't manage to land one good shot at Kessler - as Kessler was stumbling backwoods the whole fight - and Andrade's main weapon is exactly that: to get to the opponent while pushing him back...

 

Are you sure it wasn't the third judge calling 117-111?