Why Calzaghe will beat Kessler

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by yesihavearm, Jun 19, 2007.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You aren't just a wind-up merchant, are you?
     
  2. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't :) - I compared the - "this is the fight we want to see factor". Ottke was unified and had 21 defenses - so his resume more than lives up to Kessler's - although only on paper :)

    Fights on this level seldom come through - hopefully this one will.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets ignore those fighters loses and Calzaghe's wins...and continue to argue Nunn is superior to Calzaghe.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3rd time. Eubanks was favorite, the weight-drained and shot myths are just myths.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe was the underdog, it was his first step up really. People thought it would be too much.
     
  6. langshof

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    To be a great boxer you have to beat great boxers. Calzaghe hasn't beaten any great boxers. Not one. He beat Eubank who was a very good boxer on the slide, not great. A 10 year reign at WBO doesn't make you great either when your opponents arent even near great. Objectively, none of JCs defences have been against great opponents. A couple of good ones, none great.

    Who will win the - hopefully - upcoming fight JC vs. Kess? I have no idea. That's why I want it to happen. Also because it would finally change the jc / Kess debates here to post fight debates instead of pre fight debates. There's pretty much nothing new to add untill the fight has happened.

    Get it on!:bbb
     
  7. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yep because he went on to fight in that weightclass and won... no sorry I was wrong - he went up in weight - to cruiser and lost twich to Carl Thompson...

    Still a good win - but Eubanks was drained and he was over the top...
     
  8. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    ???...look at joe´s last 3 "fights",compared to kesslers...
     
  9. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    I actually said it a bit better 3 months ago or so.:yep

    Great post! Its the excact thing about this fight - who's the best at what they do!
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it depends on what Calzaghe shows up.
     
  11. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Nope, China.

    Calzaghe is gonna show up in the best form of his life:deal

    Kessler vice versa. I personally beleive that their skill level is very close and I hate dudes who say **** about either fighter.

    In my best judgement Kessler will have the edge over Joe. This because Joe has to get close to Kessler in order to score or make some damaging flurries...

    Kessler is very good at reading the game and he will be ready for Calzaghe. Calzaghes foot speed actually wont play that big a role because Kessler will hit Joe (Joe's trying to get inside)because of Kessler extremely accurate punches. This scenario will continue untill round 5 or 6 or so. Kessler counterpunching Joe and Joe still landing a few combos.

    After 5/6 the fight will change - Joe will try to RUN into Kessler which naturally causes problems for the slower Kessler. Joe is damaging Kessler who apparently seems awkwardly passive. Joe has the command in these rounds.

    Round 8/9 changes into a slugfest - Joe loosing his speed and Kessler loosing his power. Neither gets severely hurt.

    Round 10/12 will be Joe's last chance to score a decision ud/sd.

    Kessler will knockdown Joe in the 11'th.

    Conclusion:
    Kessler wins - in Copenhagen - a pretty comfortable decision or a late tko.


    Why?

    Because Kessler has the tools to compete with Calzaghe.
    Besides - This fight is inside vs outside. Outside wins 8 out of 10 times in my book.

    **** Blocky's and others analysis. They clearly have something against Kessler = Biased mo'fos.
     
  12. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Let me add.

    Round 10/12 is a matter of stamina and ring generalship. They are on the same level in these skills.

    Kessler will have the edge though, cause he is younger, stronger + Joe has fragile hands.

    (Fragile hands do allright against Ashira - but hell no against Kessler)
     
  13. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    I can see that he COULD do so. But NOTHING in Calzaghes style or latest fights convince me.

    Stop the utter nonsense that Kessler is a standup euro 1-2 fighter. His last fight showed a hell lot more.
     
  14. sjc

    sjc Active Member Full Member

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    You think Kessler beats Joe on stamina? That's a bold statement. Joe will keep punching all night long.

    As Lacy's trainers said to him after about round 3 or 4 "He can't keep up this pace!"

    They were wrong. 1000 punches later they no doubt realised.
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe can tire in fights...but it is doubtful assuming he trains.