Why can GSP so easily takedown these great wrestlers?

This isn't something that I am willing to answer. Either way, I look like an ass hole. I have competed in wrestling my entire life, and I have been successful. I have trained with guys much better than those that GSP trains with. I also outweigh GSP by about 15-20 pounds. However, you have no idea who I am, or what I have done... so either way that I answer this question I look like an ass. Either I tell you No, to save myself from looking like an "internet tough guy" and then get drilled about how I think that a guy with not a single wrestling match under his belt could beat me..... Or... I say yes, and I look like a desperate nerd on a message board acting like a tough guy.

So... I will not answer this question. You don't know me, and there is no way for me to validate my answer, either way. I will say that I am much better at Folkstyle wrestling than I am at Freestyle wrestling. Just a lot of habits and instincts that I can react to in a split second while in a folkstyle match, because I did it for so long. In Freestyle, I find myself thinking of the rules a lot. Just not as comfortable. I think that goes for just about every wrestler though.

 

Such as? Please don't pretend like I said that I would "knock James Toney out in 10 seconds", as the legend on ESB goes.

This is what I am talking about. What would be so silly about believing that a person who has wrestled their entire life, could beat a person who has never wrestled a single match? Because I come and post at ESB, or because he is chosing to be an MMA fighter? This is why I say, there is no way to answer that question without the message board mafia pretending like they know more about me than I do.

 

Honestly, WM, you are either a fantastic liar or simply know what you're talking about. I've actually brought this question up to some of my wrestling coaches and, to simply state it, they backed our argument up. I didn't really expect a different point of view.

This is the reason I made some assumption about people who were posting for the other side of the argument. We're talking about the technical and factual argument, they're talking about "you call him a liar" argument. I think its pretty obvious.

Also, good answer btw :good.

 

Thanks.

I just don't understand how anyone could honestly believe something different. You have to either have a very poor grasp on the sport, or simply let being a fan get in the way of logic to think that GSP would beat KOS in a wrestling match.

 

It's all good....just playing around....because unless you wrestled GSP in a freestyle match it's all conjecture anyhow, but based on educated guesses if you were a national qualifier at the D I level and gave yourself some time to get in shape ....odds would be in your favor, unless GSP is just the S%^& at wrestling, but we don't know that either......

 

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First of all... I never said anything about kicking James Toney's ass... or about him having a gut. What I said was that IN A WRESTLING MATCH, I would pin him in under a minute. Radar and company were trying to tell me that Toney is a "world class athlete" and that I couldn't beat him in wrestling.... it was ******ed. I replied with saying that I would pin him in under a minute, and I still stand by that. And THAT is why I said that it is because he has no wrestling backround. Does that seem odd, or wrong? Being the jerk-offs that they were they used to always say that I said that I would kick Toney's ass in 30 seconds... then it became knock him out in 30 seconds... then it became knock him out in 10 seconds... just pathetic.

Also... I never said that I was "just some high school wrestler". That was just more bull**** coming from those guys a couple years ago on this site. There was a thread about people posting "high school" achievements in there. I posted some pics of my wrestling in my high school days.... and the same guys who used to stalk me on this message board blew that up into this big "High school wrestler with his 10" trophies" nonsense. I am suprised that you bought into that nonsense. Just because I didn't bother to sit on here and argue with them, you took it for fact? Sorry, I didn't feel like stating every accomplishment that I ever had, giving my full credentials and my social security number out over this message board. It just doesn't mean that much to me.

I don't have any reason to come onto this site and talk myself up, and I don't have any reason to pretend that I am something that I am not either. If you take a minute to read my posts... I ALREADY SAID THAT TRAINING WITH GUYS LIKE I TRAINED WITH DOESN'T PUT ME ON THEIR LEVEL. Did you miss that? You must have, because for some reason you just said that same thing about me, as if I was pretending to be a World Champion just because I trained with them. If you payed attention, you would see that is extactly what I was saying about GSP. Just because he trains with Olympians, doesn't put him on their level. On subjects like this I may use my experience to show examples that I know what I am talking about.. I am not trying to brag, I am trying to prove a point.

Once again though... you have no idea who I am. You don't know me... so why are you painting a picture as if you do? You are labeling me what you have heard some message board posters call me in the midst of an arguement over Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos. You actually believe what you hear people say about me on here? Do you think that they actually know me? Those stalkers went as far as to google my hometown... pick roads, and pretend that they talked to my neighbors... that they knew what street I lived on, ect... it was extremely pathetic. They found an old wrestling team picture (which I wasn't in), posted it on here and pretended that I was a particular wrestler on there. You fell for that ****?:-(

 

So you would knock James Toney out in 10 seconds! :rofl















Just Kidding! :yep

 

Widdowmaker..WHO ARE YOU???

 

All things to all men.:smoke

 

Nobody that you've heard of... I'm sure.

 

You insulting my wrestling knowhow??

 

Everything is an argument on this board.

 

No it isn't, man...