why cant malignaggi punch?

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you could get malignaggi the best boxing trainer who concentrates on punching alone, and trains him for a year on just punching, and still malignaggi wouldn't be knocking guys out cold. boxing trainers realised this a long time ago, which is why they have come up with "punchers are born, not made". some have it, some don't. same goes with speed. some are phenomenally fast, and no matter how much a boxer trains, he'll never be as fast as that phenomenally fast boxer. everybody's different.
     
  2. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yea but im not talking about massive 1 punch ko power knocking people out left right and center. im literally just talking about having a bit of zap in his punches enough that if u catch an opponent on the chin your gonna rock them. marquez for example isnt a renowned ko artist but he can punch. in fact i cant think of any other fighter right now that possesses such zero power
     
  3. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well technique can raise the power as most of the power comes from the leg and rotation, but when people talk about power, they talk about concussive knockout power, and that's power that a trainer can't make, he can improve it, but he can't make it the force of say an earnie shavers.

    most of these hard hitting punchers find their phenomenal even before they stepped into the ring. foreman, tyson, liston, duran, all these hard punchers all punched hard before they set foot in a boxing gym, and the same probably goes for all the hard punchers. you even see it with floyd mayweather. floyd punches with great technique, so why doesn't he punch as hard as say manny pacquiao who's punching tecnique looks flawed at times?
     
  4. Broxi

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    He has a terrible right hand i.e. injuries and no power in his left.
     
  5. lanzelotz

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    I would say a textbook punch isnt about maximizing the power of the punch. A textbook boxing punch is about the combination of power, speed, being able to keep the position to attack again, protecting yourself.
    The most pwerful way to punch is not the textbook boxing punch.
     
  6. Relentless

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    malignaggi cant put weight behind his punches because his hands break.
     
  7. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's got to the point where iv'e just stopped thinking in why some boxers punch hard, and why some don't. sure technique can play a part, but how many times have we seen where boxers punch using the right technique, not getting stoppages, and then in the next fight you see a crude wild fighter who punches all to wild, but hits so much harder.

    it's one of those things where i say sure technique plays a part, but i have come to the conclusion where i would have to agree with many boxing trainers that punchers are born. the simple reason for this is you see a guy walk into the gym, and hits so hard, let alone hasn't been trained at all, yet hits harder than guys who have trained for years.
     
  8. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he should maybe think about another sport if u know u cant put any power in punches. that means any half decent fighter u fight is gonna bust u up.
     
  9. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    He doesn't throw **** behind his punches.
     
  10. Paulsy

    Paulsy Member Full Member

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    **** all this. I've boxed sharp speedy punchers and ive boxed big heavy bruisers.

    The difference is that quick punches gives you a sharp stinging pain. Similar to being slapped. Whereas big bruisers give you a jolt that goes through your whole body.
     
  11. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fights going back also, its like he doesn't commit on his punches
     
  12. Relentless

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    why?

    he did very good with the tools he had, he had over 8 hand surgeries in the beginning of his career, he has made a ton of money in the sport.
     
  13. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe he has a lot of feminine genetics in him and then he would fight if he could do more than slap and feather hit you?
     
  14. Edward

    Edward Active Member Full Member

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    This is very much over simplified. Doesn't Newton's second law apply only to motion in one dimension?

    If you're talking physics surely you should be talking about kinetic linking and torque?

    Perhaps he doesn't but how would we know?
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most guys who can't bang don't wanna accept it: EITHER YOU CAN PUNCH OR YOU CAN'T. Watched guys from day one in the gym. Heavy hands is God-given.

    If you saw Pacquiao sparring with big gloves, dropping guys wearin' head guards three divisions higher with what look like half-speed arm punches, you'd recognize it's in the DNA, like height 'n reach.