why cant malignaggi punch?

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I've said before, I think too many speed guys get ruined by the amateur system of scoring points. They extend just enough to 'touch' the guy and are already bringing the hand back.
     
  2. Relentless

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    thats the thing, malignaggi doesn't just 'touc', he tries to put power behind his shots but everytime he breaks his hands, he has had soo many surgeries on his right hand.
     
  3. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    What does PBF's training style have to do with anything?
     
  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You express yourself well, m, but we have to part company with your thought above. In the over 65 years I've spent in the game-- with the best amateur an pro fighters in the world -- never seen power improved. It's the illusive Holy Grail. Seen guys learn to throw in combination, so the affect is bigger than one shot. But no matter how much time they spend on bags -- breaking down every movement -- it makes no difference.

    If some trainer had the answer, he'd make more money than a cure for baldness.
     
  5. slantone

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    Punching power is like vertical leap in basketball, its the one thing everyone wants- works hard to get- but ultimately is either given or not by god or victor conte. sure, its all about the synchronisation of body from legs to fist in perfect harmony to create a perfect punch- and this teaching and training applies and can improve for athletes all the way up to the professional level. but at the highest professional levels- when everyone trains the same and is well schooled in fundamentals and knows the expertise of punching and so on, it really does come down to genetics.

    for example , in the nba- they all do weights , plyometrics, high reps, all these things to increase vertical- and you can to a certain extent improve yourself. But only to a certain point when genetics will inevitibly take over and do the rest, or not. everyone in the nba has trained themselves to leap relatively high, just as everyone in pro boxing can punch. But not everyone is blessed to leap over another man like vince carter or lebron, just as not everyone can punch as hard as a tyson or pacquiao. those things are just genetic.

    we ve all seen it before in gyms- guys with no boxing experience walk in and crack the pads with thunder, and we ve seen people who are rnt powerful build their way up to great power- but their is a ceiling that only genetics can help you reach.
     
  6. emallini

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    He doesnt even try to put power behind his shots thats the whole point. He goes to score points. He will have average power but he doesnt put leverage behind his shots.
     
  7. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wouldn't matter how much leverage Paulie put behind it, e. HE CAN'T PUNCH. Juan Diaz huffs 'n puffs 'n tries to knock down buildings with every shot. Lots of sound 'n fury signifying nothing.

    Guys who can punch hit home runs no matter how bad their technique.
     
  8. Kevin_Wright

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    :rofl lol
     
  9. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Paulie has broken his hand 5 or 6 times. This will always affect the confidence of a fighter in terms of putting weight behind a punch.
     
  12. la-pantera

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    it must have been something with his hands. correct me if im wrong, but didnt he have good power as an amateur?

    calzaghe was 22-0 w/21 ko's at one point in his career til he got the brittle hand disease.
     
  13. Aznhybrid

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    He's still a good fighter.
     
  14. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's hard to compare the amateurs to the pro's due to fights being stopped alot more prematurely in the amateurs than the pro's.

    fighters have commented that calzaghe slaps are alot harder than they look.
     
  15. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    If he kept his mouth shut about his accusations against Pacquiao, Roach could've helped him with his lack of power. Ariza could've help him with his conditioning but he ran his mouth too much.