Why cant Mayweather fight Pacquiao in the pocket?

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FLOYDS ENTIRE GAME (1 ASPECT AT LEAST) IS BASED OFF "RANGE" OR WHAT IS CALLED, "TIMING & INCHES"

Your off in alot of what your saying too Gander:thumbsup

 

This is a different kinda fight for Floyd. He can fight like this and like that but here's my take: Jesus Chavez was about the same size as Manny Pacquiao and Floyd stayed, slipped, rolled, ducked punches and let him punch himself out to bust him up right afterwards. Happens that Manny throws a second and a third shot at a taller man that will surely connect so either Mayweather gets there first jabbing and sneaky right hand whipping him first or he has to move along the ropes and catch him with a check lead left hook a la Hatton. He can't fight in the pocket with manny cause that is a no fuction solvable for Floyd between the two fighters.

 

I disagree-Floyd can use his longer arms to find "range" and pick Manny off as he "runs in" with sloppy footwork and off balance punching.

As for the chavez fight........Floyd dominated that fight n its the style that makes the fight-

PAC-FLOYD WOULD NOT BE VERY SIMILAR TO CHAVEZ-MAYWEATHER-...BY ANY MEANS.

 

Then he's gonna get mauled by Pac. Nobody beats Pac by walking him down. If he does I'll call him the GOAT.

 

I guess what Im saying is Floyd isn't your standard boxer-type who uses a lot of movement, stays behind the jab. Floyd loves to fight in the pocket. Yeah, he can box and move, but he always goes back into that 'defensive' mode where he plants his feet and invites his opponent inside. And he has a bad habit of pulling back and forth in straight lines. Against southpaws I've never seen him utilize a lot of movement, always standing straight /squared up.

 

He will walk him down. Mayweather knows how to cut off the ring. It seems to me that you think Floyd is just going to be careless or something. He will walk him down but in a very intelligent way. Rather Floyd is walking him down or fighting off the back foot, Manny still has average foot work that will be his undoing. I see the fight being just like the Autor Gatti fight. Floyd will play high speed chess with Manny and Manny will be playing checkers.

Manny couldn't even get his lead foot to the outside of Marquez even though Roach told him to do it constantly. Manny will fight his heart out but it will be a complete domination.

By the way Manny doesn't have an inside game at all. None of Roach's fighters have that. The only fighter he has ever trained that had one was Toney and Toney knew how to fight like that way before he hired Roach.

 

floyd walks people down you idiot, he has done it against everyone he's fought at 147, he likes to fight up close

 

Tryin to walk manny down is the absolute worst thing you could ever do, Idon't care how intelligent you are. Your fighting Pacquiao's fight. Floyd isn't dumb enough to do that, but I hope he is.

 

nobody walks down pacquiao without getting a face full of leather

marquez boxed off his back foot all night vs. pacquiao because he's not ******ed like you

 

My thoughts on a Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight as of November 2011:


- If Mayweather steps to Pacquiao the way he did with Mosley, he'll get lit up, if Pac still has the snap in his legs the way he hasn't seemed to have in his last 2 fights. Unlike his fans, I believe Mayweather's chin is a weakness that can be exposed by guy who throws fast, hard punches from different angles within exchanges - if indeed Floyd fights him in this way


- If Mayweather walks backwards all night relying on his reach to keep Pacquiao off him, I can see Floyd taking a decision



And in reality, even if Floyd starts out the former, he will end up doing the latter. As soon as he tastes that power, he will be doing anything to avoid another serving.

 

That's the thing, he is a fighter who can use a lot of movement and stay behind the jab. Why the hell do you think casual fans and media use to say he was a runner? He does what he has to do in the ring and he hasn't had to move against certain guys recently.

Mosley, well you should know that Winky Wright showed the perfect blueprint against Mosley and I knew Floyd would be in front of him based off of that. He will bring it all against Manny and start walking him down later in the fight. Corner stoppage, or ref stops the fight.

 

I think Floyd is capable of walking Pac down, but that's not how I'd like to see fight Pac because it's too risky. I hate when people come and think they can out muscle Pac

 

Gander, your using one "stance" to judge everything bro.

Your saying he doesn't give angles...I'm sorry to tell u bro, but Floyd uses angles in his fight game more so than u think.

He knows how to "steal" angles that have been taken off him...Trust he WILL confuse Pacquiao with his better footwork and make Pac think more than he wants.

he can use his longer arms to Keep Manny at a distance and land right hands over Pacs VERY SHORT JAB or land 1-2 (jab right hand) when Pacquiao "AMATUER HOOKS."

Floyd will also have the skill to "change up" anytime he wants...he'll be able to walk Manny down or box on his back foot ala Baldomir.

Manny has a "punchers chance" imo...nothing more than that.

Nice post though! You actually posted some good stuff-I just think your technical analysis is off on Floyd, thats all:good

 

not even marquez did it and he has an iron jaw

you cant take a chance getting knocked down by pacquioao............., cotto, hatton, marquez in the early fights all made that mistake and were all put on their butt

 

He's never done that against southpaws, not even Ortiz who's aggressive... which doesn't mean he acn't, but whether he can or not, he'll always go back to that defensive mode of his and plant his feet. It's just natural for him to defend that way, and as I said before it gives Manny more opportunities then he would have with someone like JMM who's always goign to be moving and taking advantage of certain angles that leave pacquiao exposed.

You mentioned Pacquiao never keeps his lead foot on the outside. Well neither does Floyd. He always stands right in front of his opponent , never gives lateral movement. So like I said, his defensive habits make him plant his feet and fight in the pocket, so its' not something Pacquiao will have to worry about anyway.

Pay attnetion to Floyd's footwork here:

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Notice he never keeps his lead foot on the outside, in fact he walks in the other direction most of the time. Very little, if any, lateral movement.