Why Can't Morales School Barrera the way Pacquiao Did?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by asero, Apr 16, 2009.


  1. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    just read the poll choices.
    embarrassing.
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    what's wrong with the pacquiao is too great...he is a legit ATG buddy
     
  3. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    agreed, he is.
    but the choices you offer dont exactly prove your objectivity.
    in a perfect world for you, everyone here would be foaming at the mouth with praises of the mangod. i personally am a huge fan of morales and barerra, as well as your pacman. but serious dude, i hate to foul up your thread with negativity so i guess i wont post.
     
  4. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    what i want here is for people to convince themselves that morales is a gutsy warrior and used his machismo in the barrera fights. pacquiao is the greater fighter as compared to morales because he stick to his game plan. part of being great is being smart. something morales lacks in his fights with barrera. barrera meanwhile, lacked heart and class in his fights with pacquiao
     
  5. pare

    pare Active Member Full Member

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    agreed. and what's with this crap about mab and em being past it? a fighter's "prime" is such a nebulous and malleable concept anyway. put it this way

    a young, 1-d, noright hand pac STEAMROLLED a slightly past-it, distracted mab

    1-d, noright hand pac WORE DOWN then DESTROYED a past-it but still world class and well performing (as evidenced by pac-em 1) em

    pac went into his prime from em 3, so a non-prime pac destroyed non-prime mab and em.
     
  6. mangler

    mangler Active Member Full Member

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    Pac beat MAB up, he didn't school him technically. And MAB was the superior technician in the trilogy wit EM.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think anyone who thought Morales "schooled" Marco in the second fight need to stop watching Boxing. It bugged me, I watched the fight over and over again, and Morales didn't even make the first half of the fight his. He didn't do anything outright to make claims of a schooling legitimately. They were both pot shotting, and Morales got the better of it..but not by a lot. I had the fight a draw.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    What a convenient way of putting it.

    Pacquiao was in his physical prime during 2003, but he has just improved as a technical fighter - even if he is still sloppy.

    Pacquiao beat Barrera and Morales, that can't be debated, but neither can the fact that both of them had been at the top of the sport for 12-13 years prior to that fight, taking part in many wars, and clearly not at their best. Pacquiao capitalized on a distracted MAB, but that is the type of win that rather than discredit you just have to say, hey he destroyed the best 126lb fighter in the world at the time.

    Morales is a completely different story. Pacquiao fans will have us all believe that the only reason Morales got beat by Raheem before the 2nd Pacquiao fight was because of the weight. False. He wasn't what he once was, not in the first Pacquiao fight, and not in the third MAB fight either.

    Some idiots forget just how ****in' long these guys had been at the top of teh sport. They were the best Super Bantams in the world before anybody even knew about Pacquiao.

    Barrera had a further 4 years at the top of the sport, riddled with awful performances (Jaurez 1 and 2), mismatches (Fana, Ayala) and the only two last good performances were against fellow Mexicans.

    Morales, after his defeat to Pacquiao, faded into Oblivion, and was beat by a god awful fighter in Diaz. Prime Morales would have steamrolled him.
     
  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    morales at the top of the sport 12-13 years prior to 2006?
     
  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    please not make the distracted issue for MAB's loss...he should have demanded for an immediate rematch...look at pacquiao how aggressive he is in securing the morales rematch...
     
  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pac is the flyweight champ in 1998, one year after morales first championship fight...they have almost equal fights when morales meet pacquiao for the first time
     
  12. Addie

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    Pacquiao's prime: Now
    Morales prime: 1998-2001
    Barrera's prime: 2000-2003
     
  13. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you mentioned "top of the sport" and not "top of their game" morales had been at the top of the sport in 1997, pacquiao and mayweather in 1998, barrera in 1997
     
  14. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    I never take forums seriously, but I'd fight you. You're ****ing pathetic.
     
  15. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Morales beat him easily. Didn't school him or destroy him but won easily.