Why cant some people grasp the fact... Calzaghe ruined Lacy !

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bill Butcher, Nov 16, 2008.


  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Ive read 1 or 2 WEAK attempts at some fans trying to downplay Calzaghe by saying that Lacy was proven to be **** all along.

    Its easy to be wise AFTER the event, I never heard how bad or limited Lacy was BEFORE the fight in which he was favoured to beat Joe.

    Watch Lacy before he fought Joe then watch him after... he looks like a different fighter... the simple reason for that is because Joe Calzaghe ruined him as a fighter.

    Calzaghe has beat better fighters than Lacy anyway but I just thought Id mention anyway that it gets beyond embarassing when the best you can come up with to downplay Calzaghe is to point out that other fighters were able to beat his former victims.....

    :lol:

    That in itself is proof to me of Calzaghe`s greatness... if thats the best you can come up with.


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  2. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    Those people HATE calzaghe, therefore even obvious logic doens't sink in
     
  3. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    I've never seen a fighter ruined to the extent they cant beat C- level fighters like Mendoza, and get shut out by B+ level fighters like Jermaine Taylor.

    If Lacy was ruined, he still wasnt anything to write home about. There are massive flaws all over his game.

    Calzaghe may be a great fighter, but there is absolutely nothng on his resume that speaks of greatness.
     
  4. TFFP

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    I think the operation was a bigger factor. That injury is career threatening for a boxer, no doubt about it. If you look at him now he struggles to even throw the hooks he was famed for, and all his punches are lacking sharpness.

    He was never a good boxer, but he was at least dangerous. I don't think he's even that any longer.
     
  5. Diablo

    Diablo Active Member Full Member

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    Lacy has been a different fighter post Calzaghe for sure. Before he would have ko'd guys like Manfredo.

    The brutal beating to Joe and the shoulder injury have ended him.
     
  6. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Even Joe himself said Mario Veit was a better fighter than Lacy...but Lacy was built up to become great and failed.....even so the way Calzaghe beat him was still impressive
     
  7. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I like Calzaghe, but Lacy was never any good

    now with the shoulder injury, he is not even world class.
     
  9. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Lacy was considered heir to the throne at 168. Everyone here after the fact cant talk all they want about how they knew he was overrated, but fact of that matter is that Lacy had looked damn impressive in all his KO victories and was confident as hell, and there were a flurry of articles talking him up and how great he was going to be.

    Calzaghe hit him with everything, Lacy could land nothing, and the fight was an incredible boxing master class white wash. It wasnt even a case of a fighter being outlclassed. It went beyond that. Lacy was nothing more than a punching bag for 12 rounds and 36 minutes.

    Yeah, that fight ruined Lacy. Look at his fights prior and his fights after. Speed is gone, he gets hurt easier, seems hesitant to throw, isnt as aggressive, his confidence is all gone. Lacy pre Calzaghe would have Knocked out both Manfredo and Mendoza. Not anymore though.
     
  10. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clazaghe + shoulder injury = ruined.
     
  11. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is some truth to it, evidenced by Lacy dominating and inflicting damage to Tsypko in the first fight before fighting Calzaghe and his more timid aproach in the rematch, after calzaghe. However, its not like Lacy was outstanding and now he is ****, he was never that good simply.
     
  12. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'm sure the loss to Calzaghe damaged him a lot, and I'm sure the injury to the shoulder did as well. But even before Calzaghe he never impressed me personally. He struggled against average figthers like Vanderpool and Sheika, he was always a limited fighter who depended too much on his power and physical strength.

    He's looked worse since Calzaghe against an even lesser level of fighters, but he was never really that good to begin with. A skilled fighter with a good chin would always beat him IMO. That's not to say that they would beat him anywhere near to the extent that Calzaghe beat him, but he always had limits that could be exposed by solid boxers and against a fighter with a good chin his power would not be enough to bail him out.

    He was an exciting fighter and seems like a genuinely good guy, but he is the definition of a limited fighter, he never looked to be anything special to me.
     
  13. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Thank you! So now we can say the Roy Jones win meant nothing at all. :yep
    Hear that Calslappy nuthuggers! :good
     
  14. pare

    pare Active Member Full Member

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    jones meant absolutely nothing whatsoever.
    would've been better if he fought pavlik like bernard did. cause even if he "exposed" pavlik as a limited fighter as bernard did, at least he would've exposed a limited fighter in his prime, not a fighter with completely nothing left but his name.
     
  15. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His performances definitely fell off after Calzaghe, and the shoulder injury. His only losses though are still only against two fighters who are a class above his previous victories.