Why check hooks are dope

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I take it you disagree with the way this coach teaches it?

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  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Modernist nonsense. The so called check hook, is nothing more than a counter hook period and has been with the sport since the Queensbury rules were established. Probably used during the heyday of The Roman Colosium lol. Add that with "Fighting off the back foot". Which every boxer has done at some point. Basically a defensive posture.
     
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  3. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Floyd apparently learned the term (and the technique) from some old-school Michigan trainers:

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    I don't get what you guys have against the term or why you think it's "modernist nonsense."
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    To be fair, some of those Michigan trainers might well have been smoking crack .... or "A Side Meth"
     
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  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John, apologies if I've offended. 1st time I heard the term was from a Mayweather Jr fight.
    But my point is it's a counter hook. To many posters see the punch as something mystical because of Mayweather Jr's effective usage of it and him calling it that.
    Many modernist come off as if its something new. Hell I've used it myself sparring. I haven't sparred hard in over 30yrs.
    So, What's next? A check Jab? Check straight right hand? Check uppercut? Every counter punch turned into a check something?
    But again if I've somehow offended, apologies. I generally agree with what you post, and the times I don't I can see your point of view and your reasoning for the opinion.
     
  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder if that is a regional term? The move itself certainly isn't new, but I had never heard it called that before Floyd called it a check hook.
     
  8. reznick

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    Agreed. This has nothing to do with being modernist.
    It's a new term that was made up for an old technique. Who cares?
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yes sir...I forget what it is now but Andre Ward made up some ridiculous name for a rt hand. When I first heard it I almost fell off the chair laughing. I mean come on now this stuff has been around forever now.
     
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  10. Shrollleftupper

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    I don’t believe you should lean back, because that takes the power away from the hook. Assuming you’re orthodox, what you should do is take a quick, slight step to your left and make your front foot face forward, then throw a normal hook, but let your rear foot naturally leave the ground as you finish throwing the hook so that you can pivot on your front foot. This is not exactly how I described it in that post.
     
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  11. Shrollleftupper

    Shrollleftupper Active Member banned Full Member

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    However, that coach was using the check hook as a counterpunch, not as a general way to stop a charging opponent or get off the ropes (which is what my technique was). As a counterpunch, I would do the same thing that coach did but without leaning back; the power of my hook would outweigh the fact that I would be more open by not initially leaning back
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Wasn’t offended but I’m pretty sure you’ve got the wrong guy.
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yea that's a big no. Hook is a hook. Deal with it
     
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  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    oooow then that must make it right then lol. Never heard it mentioned once at Fraziers gym or Warminster PAL or watching any live fight since 77 until Steward said it. LOL u kiddin me. How come Clancy Dundee Quarry Norton ect ect never mentioned it while they were announcing. Your a joke
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Boxing encyclopedia lol not me I'll leave that to an expert like you because you know Steward said it so it has to be gospel in your eyes. No I couldn't remember who said it I do remember the fight though. Does that make me a bad guy?
    Go follow the masses sheep
     
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