Why come wont Dillian Whyte fight Luis Ortiz? SMH

Umm yeah he did. He gave away early rounds to have a look at Hughie and then took control from about round 3-4 onwards with Round 8 being the only sort of success Hughie had. Maybe watch the fight instead of looking at some scorecard Infern0121.

Yeah, Pulev fought a younger fresher lighter Chisora and beat him comfortably, your boy struggled to get past him twice which shows his level as a barely top 10-15 fighter.

Hahahaha the good old money talk which you see nothing of. You talk as if you'll get some (which we know you could use some of). If he weren't scared of Pulev jabbing his head off he would have gone to Bulgaria, beaten him up, put himself into an number 1 mandatory spot with the IBF which would have led to a massive payday with AJ, something you matchroom supporters are obsessed with but no, he bottled it to stay in the UK with Eddie holding his hand.

And why would Wilder waste his time fighting Dillian Whyte? No one apart from you and the matchroom crew wants to see that.

But hey, you go around and celebrate your boys number 4 ranking when he gave up the chance to become number 1 with the IBF.

 

because aj is the biggest payday out there and has three belts. who ducks that?

 

Exactly... that's my point...

He chose AJ for those reasons... he didn't duck anyone.

He called out the big bad man because he aint actually scared of any man on the planet

 

Jesus Christ another Ortiz thread.

Luis Ortiz - the 2nd GOAT behind Wilder (according to Wilder fans) who acheived absolutely nothing and will continue to achieve absolutely nothing.

I half agree with the delusion though: he is a goat, an actual hairy, old, ugly-ass goat that lives on a farm and stinks of his own urine.

 

Whyte opted to fight Parker instead, a former world title holder with more notable wins against decent opposition than Ortiz.

I have no issues with Whyte choosing the Chisora rematch over Ortiz as it made financial sense and also Ortiz just coming off a loss whilst Chisora was coming off a career best win.

 

This is now ridiculous, this constant Ortiz hype and in my opinion trolling has to stop.


The fact is Ortiz needs to rebuild and work his way in to a position to challenge AJ or Wilder because the truth is other fighters owe him absolutely nothing.

Since when do fighters who are higher in the rankings, earn more money, have a higher profile have to give a leg up, a chance, a payday to a fighter who has absolutely nothing to offer? No title, No money, nothing.

Whyte has been promoted and moved brilliantly, he has taken risks, he has done what he needed to do to get himself in to a position to challenge for a world title and some people are just so bitter, jealous and basically clueless that they insist it just isn't enough.

Ortiz needs to telephone Haymon and demand a Wilder rematch, or demand Haymon pays Whyte LARGE and makes Whyte an offer he can't refuse, or make AJ an offer so LARGE he can't refuse.

That's the truth of this, Hearn, AJ, Whyte are not there to provide Ortiz with opportunity and money, it's Team Ortiz that need to make moves, need to make huge offers, need to get Ortiz opportunities.

And once you Ortiz fans (all 9 of you) realise this the better it s for everybody.

 

If you support Whyte, you condone a fighter calling another out on social media twice within six months and going silent when his bluff got called twice. Fact not fiction.

 

Ortiz last 4 fights (ranked 8 by boxrec)
Martz ranked 194 by boxrec
Wilder ranked 2 by boxrec
Cojana ranked 202 by boxrec
Kauffman ranked 80 by boxrec

Whyte last 4 fights (ranked 5 by boxrec)
Helenius ranked 17 by boxrec
Browne ranked 22 by boxrec
Parker ranked 10 by boxrec
Chisora ranked 16 by boxrec

Honestly what has ortiz done to deserve a shot at a top 5 fighter

 

Wilder
35
Retired (stiverne)
8
3

AJ
Retired (wk)
34
10
4

 

Hmm...still trying to get past the first three words of the thread title.

 

Unless Whyte has a belt Ortiz is not fighting him.. Really you have to be pretty thick to think Ortiz is fighting anyone who could possibly derail his Wilder rematch..

The guy has has 1.5 real opponents in his entire career for god sake he ain't fighting anyone good unless he is getting a big cheque..

 

Fighters talk rubbish on social media and in interviews, the vast majority do.


Whyte can talk as much rubbish as he wants, he can call out everybody, he isn't paying the purses, it's Hearn who has to make and pay for the fights and if he doesn't want to then the fight isn't going to happen.

Ortiz isn't Hearn's, Whytes or AJ's problem, it's not their responsibility to get him fights or give him opportunities.


This is the problem, somehow Ortiz fans now believe it's now Hearn's responsibility to give opportunities to Ortiz and to pay Ortiz, it really isn't, it's Team Ortiz who need to make serious and sensible offers.

If Team Ortiz offered Whyte a huge amount of money for a fight and Whyte had been calling him out then I'd agree Whyte should fight him but the truth is Ortiz hasn't got any real backing so he can just do one and fight his way to an eliminator or title shot.

But Ortiz needs to get a move on, he is 49 years old FFS.

 

Please name me some other fighters who called out a fighter twice on Twitter in 6 months and turned silent when their bluff was called while proceeding to fight lesser opponents.

 

Lesser opponents?

Want to compare Whytes victories to Ortiz' and then we can talk about lesser opponents, want to compare resumes?

Ortiz has done absolutely nothing, his best win is Jennings and he tested positive for PEDs after that, he is a juiced up old man who just isn't all that, he is living off one KO that happened years ago now. Let it go.



You are choosing not to listen to me, I'll say it again.. fighters talk crap on twitter constantly, they are constantly calling each other out, fights don't always happen for various reasons.

it isn't Hearn's, Whytes or even AJ's to entertain Ortiz, to pay him, to give him a platform.


Ortiz fans should be going after his Team for getting him on this position, he is struggling to get a meaningful fight, that is his fault and his teams fault.

If you want to try and say chatting crap on twitter constitutes a duck then it has to apply to every fighter, and therefore we are going to have everybody is ducking everybody.

 

Yeah, but that's Boxrec - and their ranking algorithm is BS.

Want a great Boxrec ranking as a HW? Line up a few bums with experience and stop them in round 1. Seriously.

Boxrec had Charles Martin on the verge of cracking the top-10 after quick stops of Michael Marrone and Byron Polley a couple months apart back in the summer of 2017.

Not saying Whyte should fight Ortiz - but that's because it's poor risk-reward.