Why come wont Dillian Whyte fight Luis Ortiz? SMH

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  1. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will never understand the Ortiz hype, he has beaten nobody and other than looking technical, is useless. He had a flurry against wilder and was gassed and then knocked out, he’s a nobody in the scene.
     
  2. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At this stage of his career - Ortiz will fight anybody for a sizable check. He's not foolish enough to be pinning everything on a Wilder rematch because - odds are that won't happen. So he's rightfully (if desperately) casting a wider net. If Whyte's camp refuses - as they undoubtedly will - he will move on to Parker or Breazeale or somebody else.
     
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Risk vs. Reward

    Nobody wants to fight Ortiz.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Didn't most people have him winning 7-8 rounds against Wilder before getting KO'd? Yes, they did. Not exactly just "had a flurry against Wilder." The Heavyweight scene is awful and has been for years. He may not be impressive to you but he's a top ten HW and very clearly so these days.
     
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  5. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m not saying he’s not a top ten HW. But didn’t he get brutally KO’d by Wilder and completely gas? What it looked like to me. He’s top 10 but he’s not all that, his resume is awful and Whyte would beat him comfortably, let’s not pretend.
     
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  6. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte might lack talent, stamina, skill, but he certainly has plenty of self belief. all due credit for that.
     
  7. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he'd beat Whyte comfortably. People go on about Whyte's resume, but Ortiz would also beat everyone that Whyte has beaten and would hammer Whyte. A shame that we'll never see the fight happen.
     
  8. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz would knock Whyte out and he knows it. Whyte ran his mouth about a fight with Ortiz and got called on it, he then folded like a cheap suit. Whyte is a decent fighter he has a healthy respect for the power and skills of Ortiz and I don't blame him.
     
  9. Talivar

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    Why do so many people massivly overhype Ortiz.?. It cant be resume as his is very poor, cant be the fact he is a young prime KO artist as he is well past his prime, if its because he was winning 7-8 rounds vs Wilder before he was KO then does that mean all the same ppl have Fury as the number 1 HW as he actually beat Wilder (According to the majority anyway).
     
  10. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Ortiz would wreck Whyte easily.

    Whyte is a bum and a nobody with a padded record. Props to him and Matchroom how he is selling and cashing out but it's the UK...drunken football lads who would watch everything and buy everything if there is some hype involved.

    Do me a favour....Whyte vs Chisora II a PPV event....**** you Eddie and **** you Matchroom for trolling the boxing community. This is not a PPV event. This is a limited slugger in his prime vs. a past prime version of a talented but lazy slugger. This isn't a PPV. PPV is something like Spence vs. Garcia or Clenelo vs. GGG or Wilder vs. Fury.

    His opponents are cherry picked by Eddie and Matchroom.

    They gave him Browne who is old/shot/slow and technically horrible but Browne has one good win in his resume (by a lucky punch vs. an old past prime Chagaev) so why not? First grade cherry pick.

    The gave him Parker as Parker fought a very negative fight vs. Joshua and looked featherfisted compared to other HWs. Obviously much higher risk than Browne as Parker is young, talented, has a good chin and is a much better boxer overall than Whyte BUT still Parker looked horrible vs. AJ and Parker didn't have the cooked cards and corrupt refs/judges on his side so he was not allowed to win and the chance of knocking Whyte out was small anyway although he did it nearly in the end haha.

    They gave him Chisora as he looked completly unreal bad vs. Takam apart from those two shots that knocked Takam down/Out. I think Chisora won one or two rounds tops vs. Takam till the stoppage arrived. I mean WTF?! The sold it as a revenge fight and so on, complete bull****. Chisora was there to lose and i mean look at the point deductions. And still Chisora was ahead on the cards. LMAO!!! Fact is Chisora was only given the chance because he scored a violent KO vs. Takam which looked much more brutal than the "KO" AJ scored so they could sell it. Chisora isn't a Top 10 HW right now because of two punches lol.

    Whyte would lose to anyone with boxing skills and a powerful punch.

    Parker has skills, but no real power. He was affected by the illegal headbutt Whyte gave him at the beginning. He looked dizzle for a couple of rounds. Whyte should have lost the fight by DQ or at least the fight should have end in a NC.

    Chisora has no skills but some power and heart. Once Whyte will face a real threat he gets KTFO like he was vs. Joshua. It doesn't matter if it is Ortiz, Joshua, Wilder or some prospects. They would all beat Whyte pretty easily. Not even sure if Whyte would beat those guys like Kownacki, Breazeale or Jennings.

    Whyte should be ranked in the HWD between 8-15. It's a shame a guy like him being in that ranking region as he is probably not even Top 20 in terms of skills but as a big powerful slugger you can make it to the Top 10/15 these days. Still it has nothing to do with boxing or boxing skills, the guy is awful.

    Give him his Joshua payday, i mean they did everything to realize that with those cherry picked opponents but then it's over. Either they let him fight some serious opponents or he should retire but calling out all the dangerous HWs and fighting Browne and Chisora is pathetic.
     
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  11. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100% agree great post. Eddie really has done a great job with him to be fair. Most people know that he's a solid without being spectacular top 10-15 fighter at best but Eddie has managed to sell him to the UK public and a lot of matchroom employees/fans who post on here as some sort of boogeyman who will fight anywhere against anyone at any time as well as some people on here going as far as to say that he is the 3rd best HW in the world hahaha.
     
  12. lewis gassed

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    No one is ducking that bum Ortiz, look at who he's fighting and Whyte's opposition.
     
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  13. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is it possible that both Ortiz and Whyte are both just being built up so their losses to Joshua/Wilder are enhanced beyond what they really should be
     
  14. Inglis_1

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    Yeah, Ortiz is fighting poor opposititon because none of the top guys apart from Wilder of all people want anything to do with him.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wilder took the fight to avoid being stripped.