Why Cotto and Pavlik will rebound to greatness

Cotto could because he is a hugely gifted fighter. Pavlik will rebound and do well until he steps up against top tier opposition and then he will lose again, because he is not hugely gifted and not bound for greatness.

 

At 168 yes. Believe me Jacobs is legit man.

 

Can Cotto take Cintron's bombs though? Cotto is vulnerable to the right hand, and Cintron is more than likely to land some, even if he only had 5 or 6 rounds.

 

You're being harsh on Pavlik?:huh You have said he would still KO Calzaghe and that he will stop Abraham and that he is bound for greatness.
If that is your idea of being harsh I would love to know what you say about people when you're being kind to them.

Jacobs looks very good indeed, but it is early days and we don't know how his chin is, what it is like when he has to change his plan of attack, can't shift the guy in front of him and is backed up etc.

But right now he is certainly a very exciting prospect. If he has a solid chin he will go a long way.

 

You are vastly overrating Kermit Cintron's ability to do anything positive in a big fight other than **** his pants.

Kermit is too wild for Cotto whose developed a pretty decent ability of catching punches with his gloves. Kermit also doesn't have Margarito's inhumane intolerance for pain either.

Kermit would have his moments..but Cotto would pretty much outclass him over the legnth of the fight.

 

I am a bit overzealous when it comes to Danny Jacobs but I've seen him fight about a hundred thousand times as an amateur (and his HBO debut) and the guy is a thoroughbred.

I'd be shocked if he doesn't turn into a very very good fighter.

 

No he wouldn't. He has never been dropped as an amateur or pro, his chin is iron and he hits hard. He is lazy and would lose plenty of rounds to Pavlik, but it would be toe to toe in the end and Froch has faster hands, hits hard, has a better chin and disguises his shots more.

Pavlik hits hard, has slower hands, a worse chin and is more telegraphed.

Pavlik would be KO'd against Froch and I don't even rate Froch that highly, but he has the raw ingredients to mean Pavlik would lose if he went to war with him, and that is what Kelly likes to do.

****ing Lockett.atsch A small middleweight who has lost at domestic level in the UK, and you compare that to a big Super Middle with a much better punch, much better chin and who is more skillful and quicker and has taken out higher opposition.:roll:

Oh and Kessler would decimate Pavlik.

 

Here it is; Cotto TKO's Cintron within 6 rounds - but he has to take 15 flush right hands from Cintron in the process. Is that a working formula?

I'm asking you if Cotto can take those shots - because they will hit their mark.

 

Absolutely. Granted he'd wobble here and there and obviously have his moments of shaky grounds but the way I see it, it'd be the Torres fight all over again with a better Cotto in there.

You're probably barking up the wrong tree on this one. As someone whose been a big fan of Kermit since I first saw him fighting, I can honestly tell you he's regressed to pure club fighter status at this point...and he's become annoying as all hell to boot.

 

Nice :good Sounds good to me.

 

Cotto, I think so. As long as that didn't take anything out of him he can still achieve plenty. Although he got outmuscled and outfought, he did show the other side of his game early on as far as counterpunching and fighting off the backfoot more. A continuation of what we saw against Mosley. So he can put on technicial pressure and take a step back, he's a well rounded fighter.

Pavlik...I don't know. I think he's so far lacking in some areas its going to be difficult to improve them to a point they aren't a major issue against certain styles. He's always going to be slow as hell. He's always going to be pretty tight looking and ungainly. He's just lacking natural talent in some areas, whereas Cotto has a hell of a lot of talent and was simply outstrenghthed and outlasted by a bigger man.

 

This of course is in no way to discredit Margo's two bitchslappings against Kermit BTW. Margarito is pretty much primarily the reason Kermit has fallen to pieces...although I think Kermit's lima bean sized brain has more to do with anything in regards to his boxing failures.

And yes, I'm on my way now to say it to his face.