Why did America lose heavyweight dominance

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  1. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why were these countries unable to produce dominant heavyweights prior to the cold war. Never mind the fact that Past American heavyweights like George Foreman destroyed them on their way to Olympic gold and would have done so in the pro.

    Take Wladimir Klitschko out the equation and this argument of Eastern European domination goes out the Window.
     
  2. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they had only started up there boxing programmes prior to the cold ward

    boxing has been in america since when? mid 1850's?

    these countries put there boxing programmes in place in the 40's, cuba late 70's when the soviets helped them out

    look at ireland, they final got there act together and got a decent boxing programme in place in the mid 00's and we've became a boxing power and the system has already churning out to class talent

    thats the reason america aren't producing heavyweights the amatuer system in the states is in ruins
     
  3. The General

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    take wlad out and you have povetkin, pulev, glaskov as well as the western european heavyweights

    and you have to factor in that what would have been heavyweights in the 60's and 70's is now basically the cruiserweight division, and that is a division completely dominated by eastern europeans
     
  4. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Dude take Ireland out of this conversation, it is not a boxing powerhouse.
     
  5. The General

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    it is in amatuer boxing and we were terrible before the mid 00's, thats the difference a top class amatuer programme can make

    already 2 world champions produced from a 6 million talent pool lee and frampton

    top class prospects like Quigley, Cumming, Nevin, Sheehan, McCarthy, etc as well as paddy barnes who would win a world title within 10 fights if he turned pro

    not bad for a nation of 6 million who were doing nothing in boxing 10 years ago

    america has a amatuer system in ruins thats the problem
     
  6. attaboi

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    Not just win, we destroyed the competition.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Most running backs are under 6 feet tall. How many top 20 heavyweight are under six feet tall? TRY ZERO or Maybe just ONE.

    A quarterback as boxer? Very rare. D Williamson A.K.A Touch of Sleep made the switch

    Like I said the players from 175-220 are the DB's and WR's.

    Some picked up boxing later in life and were great. Kenny Norton comes to mind. For a modern example see Brant Jennings, who is a top 6 guy as a professional.
     
  8. Lady Girl

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    *****fication of American culture. Black dudes and white wearing pink clothes. Facebook addiction with flowers and gay ****. Parents preaching to their kids kindness and compassion and not giving them any discipline or toughness
     
  9. jauseptt

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    America lost dominance after the 1960's because the Italians and irish who immigrated to the usa stopped boxing.
     
  10. Emerald Oracle

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    The wider public have this bizarre notion that boxing and combat sport in general is some sort of barbaric and uncivilized movement that shouldn't been encouraged, this has been supported by sections of the media. Look at how the UFC was ostracized in the beginning and banned from many states, this attitude still persists.
     
  11. theanatolian

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    LOL there are People who actually believe there are no other big Sports in Europe.
     
  12. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ya complete idiots
     
  13. Lady Girl

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    yes! :lol::patsch
     
  14. heerko koois

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    Good news!!! Wilder will be the next undisputed heavyweight champion! problem solved
     
  15. arve lie

    arve lie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very good post !