Why did Andre Ward duck James degale to fight Paul smith?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Legend, Aug 3, 2016.


  1. Legend

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    Yes he can but i agree making weight was getting difficult but yes he could of made the weight he just did not fancy fighting degale he would rather fight the likes of smithy and brand he knew by him staying at 168 he would be in hard fights by him going up he could fight guys like brand and smithy

    He did not want to fight Golovkin or degale
     
  2. Legend

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    ward himself said he was ready for the best and would of fought Golovkin straight away after his long lay that was lies he hand no intention of fighting a big fight after the lay of why not just be upfront?
     
  3. punisher

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    I will ask you again. Why would he fight the "pin" at 168, when he hasn't fought at 168 in years? And he was coming off injuries. That's not smart. He knew he was moving up, so he picked a tuneup (PS) at a higher weight to get some rounds in. There is nothing wrong with that. He didn't owe Degale a fight.

    It's clear he plans to stay at 175. Now, if he doesn't fight Kovalev, except for a valid reason (injury, etc), I would call that a duck. Degale can move up or wait until Ward handles business at LHW. It's actually a more lucrative fight for Degale, if Ward takes over LHW. All he needs to do is remain the "pin" at 168.

    This whole "he ducked Degale" sh!t is just an agenda by you Ward haters, to deflect from the fact that Ward is doing something few people are doing right now...actually dare to be great.

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  4. Legend

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    what is he doing now? fighting guys like brand and smithy? by the looks of things the kovalev fights looks to be in the clouds i would not be shocked if ward does not go ahead with it so sorry i fail to see what great things he is doing now

    so ward fighting brand and smithy is something to shout about?

    He could of fought degale and beat the pin and then made his move up he had unfinished business at 168 yet he decided to fight the likes of smithy and brand how can you praise this sort of behavior?
     
  5. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You didn't answer my question. That is twice now that you ducked it. Your agenda is obvious. Please find another sport to watch. You clearly can't understand how big fights get built up. All of a sudden, fighters can't have tuneups after years outside the ring? FOH.

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  6. Legend

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    He could of fought degale straight away GTFOH

    You talk as if ward actually fought kovalev

    and even if the fight happens why did he avoid degale at 168?
     
  7. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is Degale a "tuneup" fight, for any fighter coming off injuries with nearly 2 years of ring rust, and complications making weight? Answer that question or don't reply.

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  8. Legend

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    Ward never had injuries those was lies

    I said ward could of fought degale straight away the key word could ofcourse he could of took a tune up 168 bout then fought degale but he never even entertained that thats the issue i have with him
     
  9. N17

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    See I agree with you, Ward was moving up, had no intention of making 168 again so can this "Golovkin didn't want Ward at 168" just stop because the time line is so far off and does not match up to what Ward and Hunter both said.

    DeGale has said he wants Jack and then move up to 175 and wants Ward, we will see and we will see if Ward still makes November because I believe he won't.

    Also Ward isn't "daring to be great" by fighting a man in his own weight class, he is just fighting the number 1 in his own division, if he was doing it at cruiserweight and giving away huge advantages then yes that's a huge risk and daring to be great but Kovalev is in his own weight class.

    Every title challenger at every weight is "daring to be great" if that's the case.
     
  10. Legend

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    exactly if ward was fighting the best cruiser weight then i would give him props

    but he is just fighting the number 1 guy in his division and the fight might not even happen tbh
     
  11. The Shockmaster

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    why did ward weigh 171 for smith instead of 175?
     
  12. N17

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    You tell me, you have access to Wards email and seem to know more about Wards weight than Virgil Hunter :yep
     
  13. The Shockmaster

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    go ahead and answer though...ill wait

    why didn't ward weigh 175 for the smith fight?

    why was his weight right between 168 and 175?
     
  14. N17

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    It's this Oscar rubbish "daring to be great" he started throwing this phrase around to sell a brittle jawed Khan Vs Canelo to the morons who bought it.

    "Khan is daring to be great" is a nice little sound bite but the reality was Khan was being fed to a much bigger man, so after Khan got crumpled they gave Khan to pat on the head and said "Wow he dared to be great, no shame in that"

    Now everybody is "daring to be great" it's the new buzz phrase.
     
  15. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was out due to injury and the contractual dispute with Goosen. Those are the facts.

    You just said he could of fought Degale straight away. Then you say the key was having a tuneup first. Which is it man? Get your story straight FFS.

    He DID have a tuneup against Paul Smith with his sights set on 175 and Kovalev. That's a much bigger fight and better opportunity than Degale at 168, which he already cleaned out 3 or so years beforehand. Ward has nothing else to prove at 168.



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