Why did Anthony Joshua exhibit such poor defense?

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  1. Cleaver

    Cleaver Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why people were so surprised by Joshua losing like he did against Dubois.

    Sure. Pre-fight it was not unreasonable to figure maybe Dubois would be on the receiving end of an AJ KO. But at worst it was 50-50 for Daniel, or thereabouts.

    The Joshua myth should have died years ago.
    Just because a boxer holds some belts and they call it "world title fight" doesn't mean a whole lot. Wilder had about 10 world title fights wins and AJ supporters were always quick to see through Wilder's resume. For some reason the blind spot concerning AJ persisted for so long.

    A month ago there were STILL people saying Joshua was the best heavyweight on the planet.
     
  2. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    The biggest issue was Dubois' jab AJ had no idea what to do every time it landed it completely threw him off

    He has poor recovery abilities when he get's hurt and if someone puts it on him has a dear caught in headlights look

    If Ali was fighting him he'd call him the Rabbit like he did against Patterson
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Imho he should have stayed with his first trainer. He should not have blamed him, since it is obvious that the best AJ was that AJ. He only has gotten worse.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So he got knocked out, whoop de doo
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It is what it is
     
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  6. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was great against Povetkin. He was patient and wait for the opening while softening Povetkin by body shots.

    Povetkin would KO Dubois in my opinion.
     
  7. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he got schooled for 5 rounds offering a pi55 poor defence to everything Dubois threw... then he got KOed.
     
  8. Boxed Ears

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    Every exchange involves some risk/reward assessment to be done, and some selling out of defense to open up. Sometimes the risk part wins over the reward part. Nothing crazy happened here. Rookie mistakes are made every outing by the best fighters, and rarely someone pays for it by being obliterated but it happens.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    AJ is a bum always has been

    Only idiots think he's good gifted every medal and belt he's ever fought for. Always finds a way to look poor in a fight. Mentally weak as a wet digestive biscuit. Worse than his chin.

    His best win is a green Parker who bricked himself and cruised the fight

    avoided power ever since a slap from Ruiz chinned him over

    Chinny, dumb, slow feet, poor stamina. Just not very good at all. Born of hype. Even though Dubious has polishing to do on his jab a keen eye could see he would be able to outjab AJ simply because he's committed, mentally strong and game as pebble unlike AJ.

    Great fighters can get dropped heavily or hurt and find a way back into a fight. Something AJ managed to do once against old man Wlad who himself is overrated. AJ should have actually finished him off in once of them mid rounds before Wlad recovered and did the damage back.

    I have no doubts AJ got put over in sparring for Dubious. Meanwhile Dubious has been grinding it out against guys Hearn didn't really want AJ to fight (Hurgovic) because ANYONE with a pulse smashes AJ to a million pieces. Parker rematch is even a risk for AJ.

    AJ can't even adjust for Dubious he's so mentally shagged. What is he going to do? try and box long again and get chinned over? Run at Dubious and get chinned over? He gets chinned over no matter what he tries. Pray he can catch Dubious first with a right hand possible but less likely when Dubby is sitting behind his log jab.

    When it comes to rematches at the highest level there is only one man who can do the business and his name is Tyson Fury.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Lol so what?
     
  11. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He got schooled

    He got KOed.

    We are in hostile agreement about both.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Lol ok
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua usually has opponents stand off him, giving him space and not exposing his poor movement too much. Last time he had an opponent who really tried to push him back was Ruiz and that was almost 5 years ago and Joshua was 15lbs lighter back then.

    Usyk beat him by exposing his poor movement and in a way so did Dubois but with constant pressure instead of in and out movement. That's why I think Joshua looked so slow, he couldn't catch Uysk and he couldn't get out of the way of Dubois. Joshua is at his best when he can stand his ground, the only real exception was when he fought the fat midget Ruiz who he had a massive height and reach advantage over.

    I do also think that lean back move that saw him clocked with a big right hand in the first round was something Ben Davidson tried to get him to do, to try and give him more head movement but Joshua is a huge stiff 252lbs man, he's never going to be like Fury in regards to head movement and doing it on the ropes where the ropes prevents how far you can lean back was dumb too.
     
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  14. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Joshua's biggest problem is that he upped his level of competition for the 1st time for a few years since Usyk, he stopped fighting dumplings and got exposed again.
     
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  15. Cleaver

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    Exactly.
    He's rarely faced a legitimate young (ie. not old) contender who can punch.

    Ruiz beat him up..
    Parker (not regarded as a big puncher) went the distance in a strangely refereed 12 rounder.
    Whyte (not seen as a legitimate contender at the time) rocked him badly in a British title level war.
    Franklin went the full 12, has never been regarded as a legitimate contender or a puncher anyway.

    Dubois is far from invincible but he's young and big and strong and can punch. He's a better boxer and better fighter and has a better chin.