Why did anyone give Arthur the 3rd rd.?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Aren't we all my good man.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes i am. i wanted to narrow the focus down to specifics. to eliminate much of the gaslighting that happens when the concepts are more abstract. rd 3 was clear. video evidence is there. rules of scoring a rd are clear. i have not yet covered the last 3 rds. i am waiting for someone to contend my assertion that score should fairly be 7-2 bivol after 9 rds. i stated my case for why i see it that way, covering the rds second by second. but i will get to those rds.

    judging a fight is a skill. i will prove it to you. score a rd. then watch it just focusing completely on every single scoring punch biev connects. do the same for bivol. now see how numbers differ from your initial impression. the more skilled you become, the easier it will be to see both versions happening at the same time.
     
  3. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I might be in the minority but I felt the early rounds and the later rounds were close. There were some clear going either way in the mid rounds but at the end of this fight I found it hard to split them.
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're saying round 3 is a clear round for Bivol but that's false none of the 3 judges gave Bivol the 3rd round and many members here scored the round for Beterbiev so clearly it's not a clear round for Bivol

    The punchstats also had Beterbiev landing more punches in the 3rd round which are not totally reliable but you can make of that what you will.

    I'm not rewatching the fight because the fight itself didn't do much for me and i have no interest in watching it again.

    Judges are not allowed to rewatch a fight when scoring a fight so I'm sticking with my original scorecard of 114-114 with Beterbiev winning the 3rd round.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i posted the video and described what i see. did biev score in the first 2 minutes of rd 3? did biev score a punch in the last 40 seconds of the rd? i can show you examples of bivol scoring consistently throughout the rd, including in the 15 seconds of exchanges where biev actually tried to score.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    heres the rd. timestamped. find me all those punches that won biev the rd. what did i miss? what did you miss?
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Read my post above again.
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    now read mine again.
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    @bandeedo

    In round 2 I got the feeling that Bivol had settled. That he had set up shop and was going to control the spirit of the fight off the back foot. At the end of round 3 the complexion of the fight changed. Beterbiev started to bully Bivol and Bivol then surrendered the middle of the ring. From that point on, for the rest of most of the fight, Beterbiev looked like the boss.
     
  10. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    How about the 9th?
     
  11. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member banned Full Member

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    Oh man watching it just now thats such an obvious Bivol round! There's no way that can go to Beterbiev! Impossible!
     
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  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    but one is actually putting up numbers, and one is cruising on potential.
     
  13. BrotherFred

    BrotherFred New Member banned Full Member

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    Its criminal to give this round to Artur
     
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  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    got ya covered.
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pro boxing isn't scored by tallying up punches. It's scored on a 10 point must system. At the end of round 3 Bivol surrendered the middle of the ring and got pushed back the rest of the fight. Which is why he lost on the cards.