Why did anyone give Arthur the 3rd rd.?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Which rounds have you scored to the wrong fighter out of guilt?
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ok. we can say thats a human response. wouldnt you say that judges that are able to discard that bias as they score, are more skilled judges of boxing?
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I scored it for Bivol the first time around, I didn't watch it three times trying to convince myself that he won it, I was trying to see what guys like you were seeing and I didn't see it.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a slippery slope. To give the same guy close round after close round after close round weighs on the mind when judging. It's human nature to try and be fair when the other guy has a good round and does something different to justify scoring it for him.

    In this match we have a case of Bivol landing the more flashy eye catching shots, often timing Artur coming in and catching him with dynamic punches. Meanwhile Artur's shots often being smothered and catching a lot of gloves. Aside from that, Artur also was the consistent aggressor, the volume puncher, and the ring general. So with these intangibles on Artur's side, he could, according to the scoring criteria, offset some of Bivol's betterment in terms of clean punching. And when you add into consideration of how "effective" Bivol's clean shots were, then it creates even more doubt in the mind of a judge.
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes and that's fine but do we need a whole thread about a single round calling out every member accusing them of being biased, emotional, etc ? Especially when I had Bivol 6-3 up after 9 rounds ?

    Just seems like a very one sided conversation to me for someone to ridicule members because he has a different opinion.
     
  6. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I gave Bivol the first 4 and Artur the next 4
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i get your concern. but i have already explained why i was specific, to this rd. it doesnt mean its limited to that rd. just a starting point that needs to be established.
    if you scored the 3rd. rd for biev, you are demonstrably wrong. you have no argument. you can have an argument on why you are wrong, but there is none for why you were right. other rds, up to the 10th have also been covered in this thread.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never said they haven't but one boxing fan doesn't answer for me either.
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    again, i dont understand how you completely misjudge situations. nobody is looking to answer for you, the video is asking YOU to answer for your score.
     
  10. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It seems like you're implying that because the judges unanimously agreed on a round that's the way the round should have been scored even though this thread did a good job showing why the judges were wrong
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In your opinion not mine and why aren't there threads like this for all the debatable rounds Bivol may not of deserved ? As I said one sided conversation not interested especially after being called out when I had Bivol had 6-3 ahead after 9 rounds.
     
  12. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because the judges didn't unanimously give Bivol rounds that he lost
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    facts often are one sided. thats the nature of reality.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2 judges had it very close maybe they scored some rounds wrong in favour of Bivol aswell ? All I keep seeing is one sided views in regards to Bivol.

    Someone else started another thread he had Bivol winning 2 out of the 3 last rounds is that good scorecard ? No one called him out for it.

    But here I am getting called out being accused of being biased, emotional, because someone went back and "analysed" a round it's nonsense. Shall we do that for every round for Bivol aswell ? Or is it only Beterbiev that gets the special treatment of "analysing" rounds.

    If I wanted to go back and watch a fight I would I don't need to justify my scoring to anyone my scorecard was completely reasonable and in line with the majority and the 2 of the 3 judges.
     
  15. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you look at the scorecards they gave Bivol every round he def won 1,2,8,9 which isn't controversial and most of the close rounds they gave to Beterbiev which is where the controversy comes from you can't look at the judges scorecard and point to a round they gave to Bivol that he didn't deserve so I don't see why it's wrong to look if the judges were right or wrong in their scoring