Why did Archie Moore perform so poorly against Floyd Patterson ?

Because Patterson was a blazing fast young man with a lot more pop than people realize. It was a great OLD fighter going against a young hungry talent with way too much speed and friskiness. Truth be told, since Marciano badly beat him down, yes Moore had a nice win streak going, but no one Moore fought was anywhere near the talent level of Patterson.

 

40 yrs against a kid age 21 is huge in sports...... Moore was way past it as a heavyweight by late 1956.... Patty was too young, spry and fresh....

MR.BILL

 

Reason One - Moore

Moore had already campaigned in enough bouts to fulfill 4 lengthy careers. He'd been fighting a couple of decades. Included in these near 190 odd bouts was enough class opponents to again, be split into 4 respectable segments. Also included is a latter gruelling loss to Racky Marciano, and we know many fighters were not the same again after being stopped by The Rock. We don't even have to mention age.

Reason Two - Patterson

Patterson had just the skillset to trouble an aged Moore. His blinding speed was a massive factor and not least of all he also had great skills and potential. Against someone his own weight he also had superb power.

If Patterson wanted to stay at 175 and make a career of it he could have absolutely been anything. Frightening potential there IMO, it's not 100% stupid to think we could have been arguing for him being the 175 GOAT.

 

Moore was coming out of a brutal beat down from the hands of Marciano, and nobody ever was the same after fighting the man, look at Vingo,Lastarza,Layne,34-1-1, Charles,Walcott and others...the Marciano attrition beat-down drains a fighter...also Patterson was young fast, had an amazing offense of speed and power and was able to avoid Moore's power shots that would expose the chin, head as Patterson's Achilles heel

 

You think Moore might have had some contact with the 12-year-old? A great fighter isn't immune from sins of the flesh.

 

I don't know. Klitschko is about 40, and he seems to fight just about as well as he did when he was much younger. Age doesn't affect each fighter (or person) the same way. Maybe you are right in regards to Moore, but I don't think being "40" in and of itself is necessarily a weakness or handicap. Although it can be.

 

Moore was not coming off a loss, I think he had over 10 fights since marciano- if anything he was burned from having an over active year.

 

This ****ing board...


yes every post must start this way.

Read the full story, do all the research, don't just read my post..and say "oh golly, jeez, you think Moore was immune to sins of the flesh."

 

This. We have to bear in mind that D'Amato stated that if Marciano had still been Champion he would not have gone for a Marciano fight for Floyd...but he was willing to let Floyd box Archie for the vacnt championship...not a co-incidence.

 

Wow.

Compare the depth of competition, number of fights, and size. Rediculous that you would even try to compare the two. Klitschko is merely lucky that he is 6'8 and cannot be punched consistently because of his size.

 

Of course this is correct ... distracted by trumped up **** charges, seriously.

Moore was a cagey vet with a lot of experience and was able to use his skills like an old pitcher who lost miles on his fastball but could use brains, heart and enough junk to get by ... he was forced to fight out of pace to keep Rocky off him and he could not keep it up ... he was beat down. Floyd, with his blazing speed and under rated power was simply the wrong match up .. he had no chance against that combo of speed and power, not at that age.

 

What happened? Patterson's speed and power were too much. Moore did not have the chin to take it, or the defense to get out of the way.

 

**** off you sick ****

 

Wow! Just a question. And how am I sick for asking a question? I wasn't the one accused of anything.

 

I said you might be right in regards to Moore, BUT I also said that not every 40-year-old is the same. Making a blanket statement that being 40 is a handicap or weakness is not accurate. So, Wow! back at ya!

And it's not just Klitschko, there are other fighters and other athletes past 40 that are still very capable!