Why did Bisping make it so easy for Hendo? Just an off-night or is he just mediocre?

Just a little bit in shock after the Henderson-Bisping fight. I had tipped Henderson to win, but it was the way the fight unfolded that really surprised me.

What I can't get my head around is just how easy Bisping made it for Henderson.

I'm no MMA expert, I'm just a new/casual fan, but I watched a lot of Henderson on youtube and dvd during the recent Ultimate Fighter series, and it was clear that this guy is a fighter of the very highest calibre. He was an absolute monster in Pride, and his level of comp seems to have been incredibly high throughout a supreme career.

However, Dan Henderson did not perform to even a fraction of his ability against Bisping... because he didn't even have to. His world-class wrestling abilities, his variation, his heart - none of these came into play.

He seemed to know that he was far stronger and far tougher than Bisping, and he seemed to know that he would eventually land one hook which would annihilate the Count.

So as far as I could see, all he did was chase Bisping around with his arm cocked trying to land a haymaker.

And soon enough he did.

Michael Bisping has always talked a great game, talked about his training methods, his well-rounded skills, his adaptability/variation, his apparent greatness.

And yet when his opponent's plan was merely to run around after him trying to take his head off, Bisping couldn't even react to this telegraphed plan and do anything to avoid it or counteract it. For me that showed a lack of composure, a lack of intelligence, a lack of ring-craft... and that's before you even consider how physically weak he seemed in comparison to Hendo.


To be brutally honest, Bisping looked like a skinny scared little boy in the octagon next to Henderson.


My question is: was this just a one-off bad night for Bisping (many many great fighters have had them), or is he just a mediocre fighter??

:bbb

 

I think he was in over his head, simple. Hendo has operated at the highest level for so long. The only Bisbing could have won, if Henderson really was shot, he's looked on the slide for a wee bit now, but he still had more than enough to destroy an up and comer.

Bisbing is an ok fighter, he sells well but he'll never be great.

 

Short answer is Henderson is an all time legend, one of the greatest ever, and Bisping was both shitting himself with fear and not in the same quality level.

 

That's exactly what it is. Bisping is reality TV contestant. Henderson has been fighting his whole life at a very high level.

Boy vs a man. He was scared, his plan to stick and move only works on people who can't outstrike him. His punches are weak and Henderson like to slug it out because he has the chin. Bisping is not going to try to wrestle with Hendo cause it's a suicide. It was always going to be Hendo looking to exchange because Bisping can't hang.

He bit off more than he could chew.

 

now thats just silly,henderson hasnt looked as good since defeating wandy back in pride..

-firstly he pissed henderson off and made it personal
-secondly henderson is as complete a fighter as they come, and will use whatever strength it takes at each given moment, in this case it was his striking (it is not an exhibition nor a demonstration of ability) in the octagon you get the job done simple as!
-thirdly bisping is a top fighter but yes he was clearly out of his depth here,he will be back and no shame in losing to a legend..

good thing about this is it sets up the rematch with silva and i for one think henderson wins,watch the first one it was weird hendo dominated in round 1 and for some odd reason gave his back to silva on a plate in round 2 i was gobsmacked at such a simple error on his part.

 

Eh?

Henderson is a well-rounded fighter, and a brilliant fighter with a lot to his game.

But all he had to do to beat Bisping was chase him round the Octagon with his right arm coiled.

He didn't try to hide this, it was obvious from the first minute this was his gameplan and he knew it would work so didn't deviate from it for a second. He wasn't boxing like Ray Leonard or striking like Anderson Silva, he was running around using one arm like a club, it was not a great stand-up display because it didn't need to be, because Bisping didn't have the skillset to force him to do anything else.

If you think that is all Dan Henderson can do, you don't know much about Dan Henderson.

Much like Marvin Hagler did v Tommy Hearns, he did what he had to do to win quickly and conclusively.

But there is so much more to his game than that (just like there was to Hagler's), that he didn't need to utilize because he knew the come-forward aggressive approach would be enough.


However, I agree that Henderson would be a very live threat to Silva. He is a ****ing beast. A true great.

 

eh?

i said that?

are you having trouble with my retoric or simply hungover?

now i apologise for not making my self clear but i think you'l find i have followed mma for years dinamita my man, it is you who has stated that you are a relative newcomer to the sport so please refrain from patronsing my knowledge of henderson and talking to me in a rather condescending manner...

i could tell you all you need to know regarding the subject and indeed the great man himself,you on the other hand are one of those who have spent to much time on wikipedia and sherdog and now think they are bas fecking rutten.i could be wrong...



now i must dash but we will continue this another time.

 

Bisping is good - but he was in the octagon with an all time great in Dan Henderson.

 

Henderson is a man and Bisping is a boy simple enough.

 

Someone who had been an MMA fan for all of 6 seconds would know that chasing someone around the ring with one telegraphed punch is not a great display of striking - it's not a great display of anything except power.

And yet it was enough to win. And Henderson knew it would be enough to win. This great fighter didn't need to do anything else.

Which begs the question - is Bisping really that bad that he didn't have the brain or the physical tools to counteract a very simple, very obvious plan? He should have made it harder for Henderson than that. Unless he simply is not good enough.

 

I think that Bisping got off to a good start(career wise), has trained hard, and can be legitimately be ranked near the top 10 of his division. Bisping is not one of the sport's elite. I think that Matt Hamil defeated Bisping in 2007, and Hamil was clearly outclassed by Rich Franklin.

 

Bisping is getting too much stick, theres a difference between not being in the league of absolute MMA god Dan Henderson and being a shitty fighter, Bisping is solid, just wasn't ever going to win that fight.

 

Ok out of the big names at 185/205 who can Bisping beat? I wouldnt even fancy his chances against this version of Wandy. Bisping is garbage.

 

What chance would you give Henderson against Silva in a rematch mate? I think he has a great chance.

 

Good chance but he wont be able to strike with Silva as Silva is a much better and precise striker. Even if it goes to the mat Silva is good enough to get a submmision from guard. Hendo will always have a good shout but i dont see him beating Silva.