Why did Bowe take such beatings from Golota?

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  1. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Why did Riddick Bowe struggle so badly against Andrew Golota?

    People say that Riddick was shot but why would he be shot? He was only 28. Some say that the Holyfield fights took too much out of him but from what I saw he dished out more damage to Holyfield than he received, Holyfield was ok after the trilogy and managed to comfortably defeat Tyson.

    This same past it Tyson destroyed Golota in 2 rounds. Likewise Lewis made quick work of him.

    Was it a case of a bad stylistic match up for Bowe?
     
  2. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Those three fights took a lot out of Bowe which you can see now in interviews not to mention how out of shape he would get in between fights.
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe was getting faded (age is arbitrary when discussing how it impacts different fighters). He was not known for being a guy who was ever committed to training in the first place. Add millions of $, some tough fights and a dwindling commitment and you have a recipe for how he looked against Golota.
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    People really need to stop talking age when describing a fighter being shot. For instance fighter A could still function at this level while fighter B couldn't. Therefore it's not age related.
    That's the biggest bunch of bull#### someone can say!
    Look at how early a monster like Pipino Cuavas was shot! Saad is another example. I could name many more but why bother. Look everyone is wired differently. The central nervous system comes into play here too. All it takes for some fighters is to catch one to many punches and there just not the same it's really that simple.
    Some people will say well look at Bhop he took great care of himself and I'll say look at LaMotta who took awful care of himself yet lived to be almost 100 with a clear mind.
    Some guys only have so much punch resistance in them then that's it. Bowe falls into this category.
     
  5. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson post prison was not exactly a hard trainer but finished off Golota easily.

    Maybe he had more power than Bowe.
     
  6. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After trilogies like that fighters are usually spent.
    Ali and Frazier both were shot after Manila.

    Bowe and Holy had noticeably slowed down too. Both, not only Bowe.
     
  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Listening to Bowe slur with a few years of his trilogy was enough to know his body didn't recover.

    Aries Spears cracked a bad joke about Bowe, by impersonating, really bad, but he had the words exact.

    Instead of saying "as long as I do what I'm supposed to do"
    He said "As long as do what im po'd ta do"

    Then listen to him first fight post- interview he could enunciate rather well. "bert cooper knocked him against the ropes, well I knocked Evander down!"

    @reckless I think its 3 things; 1. Golota was a pretty good boxer. Not great, but better than average. 2. Add in that Bowe didn't train well as @Unforgiven said. 3. Holyfield put damage on him that Andrew completed.

    Same with Meldrick Taylor. The beating he took from Chavez in those 2 fights, he couldn't recover. And hearing him slur, if you're a true fan. That **** hurts to hear.
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Lack of dedication to his craft.
     
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  9. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe not very dedicated even when young .This meant he took more punishment latter in his career.He took a lot less than some but people react differently to punishment look at Duran compared to Benitez.
     
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  10. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Why on earth did he take the rematch?

    He took even more of a beating second time around.
     
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  11. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True Lewis made quick work of the mental problematic Golota because his opponent fought under Lidocaine influence. Tyson was harder puncher than Bowe he could ruin Golotas' health.
     
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  12. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golota could be quite formidable occasionally and he was in the two Bowe fights. His mental problems were even more formidable - for him.
     
  13. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe did one big mistake in both fights. He didn't try to bomb Golota out. Like Lennox,Tyson or Brewster did. Bowe boxed vs Golota instead.

    Lennox was the 1st opponent to do that to Golota and showed where Golota is vulnerable at. Bowe never tried it, exept maybe round 5 of their rematch when he dropped Golota and then Andrew low blowed Bowe in that round.
     
  14. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "He didn't try to bomb Golota out". Just a speculation.
     
  15. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Good point