Why did Curry lose to Honeyghan?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Honeyghan had plenty of good nights.

    He beat Donald Curry. He beat Johnny Bumphus. He beat Maurice Blocker. How is beating Starling and guys like Milton McCrory and Colin Jones so much better? (It isn't.)

    The answer is they're all good welterweights. Nothing more.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Nino LaRocca lost to Gilles Elbilia who lost to Milton McCrory. So what?

    None of them were great. That's the point.

    Lloyd Honeyghan beat Donald Curry because he was better than Donald Curry.

    I don't know why that sends some of you into a death spiral.

    Honeghan wasn't better than all of them. Curry wasn't better than all of them. Starling wasn't better than all of them.

    It was just a good group of welters whose names you could throw in a hat and pull two names out and anyone could beat anyone. None stood out above all others.

    Deal with it.
     
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  4. salsanchezfan

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    Johnny Bumphus?

    Oh come on, man...…

    And we both know Blocker isn't what Jones or McCrory was.

    Next you'll be bringing up Gene Hatcher.
     
  5. Dubblechin

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    Bumphus beat Starling. Starling beat Honeyghan. Blocker beat Starling. Honeyghan beat Blocker.

    Again, who did Colin Jones ever beat? Seriously. How is he considered some awesome fighter and you're ripping guys like Blocker and Bumphus who were actual champs and actually have wins over guys we're talking about?
     
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  6. salsanchezfan

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    Go back and watch some Johnny Bumphus and get back to me when you finish.
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    Bumphus beat Starling.

    Go back and tell me who Colin Jones beat.
     
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  8. C.J.

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    Dona;d had the flu Hadnt been abe to train & was overweight. Dave Gorman wasned to pull him out but Akbar Muhammad insisted he fo, Don had to sweat off wright & was weak as a kitten.
    All credit to Lloyd he took advantahe and won the fight
     
  9. salsanchezfan

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    You clearly don't understand the context of Bumphus' "win" over Starling.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Don't feed the troll people.
     
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  11. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ft. Worth Star Telegram article hinted of trouble in the Donald Curry camp before the Honeyghan fight.
    Boxing people in Texas weren't surprised at the Curry loss.
     
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  12. Xplosive

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    Theres partial validity in what Dubble is saying, but a lot of it underrates Curry.

    The true part - Donald Curry was certainly not on the level of Ray Leonard, and McCrory wasnt on the same planet as Hearns. But then again, no one claims that he was. The Leonard vs Curry matchup has been proposed several times on here before... I cant recollect any poster ever favoring Curry.

    The part that underrates Curry - claiming he was no better than Danny Garcia and Keith Thurman. That's just ridiculous. Prime Curry was in a different league than both those guys - both of whom from a historical perspective are average welterweight champs.

    Danny Garcia gets schooled by Nino Larocca. No doubt in my mind. We're talking about a guy who LOST to Mauricio Herrera being just as good as Donald Curry?????? Please!
     
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  13. PernellSweetPea

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    sometimes styles make fights. Honeyghan to me was just too rough a fighter and high energy for the kind of counterpunching style of Donald. Look how Lloyd beat Hatcher. He was unpredicatable and awkward and had quick hands. Even at his best. Donald has trouble with that style and speed.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    Danny Garcia beat Erik Morales twice, knocked out Amir Khan, beat Zab Judah and Lamont Peterson. And you're touting Nino Larocca? REALLY?

    I'm no fan oF Garcia. He's fine. But what the hell did Nino Larocca ever do compared to guys like Khan and Judah and Morales and even Peterson? Seriously? And Larocca SCHOOLS Garcia? Hall of Famers haven't schooled Garcia, let alone Nino Larocca.

    Some of you guys need to wake up. Most of the current welterweights are good champs. None of them are greats. But neither was that era after Leonard and Hearns. That era of Curry and Starling etc. was no better than the era post-Mayweather.

    In fact, a number of the current era guys have beaten better fighters and have been at the top a lot longer than Curry ever was.

    "Prime" Curry was in no way better than those guys. He was very well schooled. He was very good. I enjoyed watching Curry more than I enjoy watching guys like Garcia because Curry hit harder.

    But Curry is so incredibly overrated that people overrate the guys he fought (like Jones and Larocca - who did nothing) and just dismiss better fighters others fought to the extent that it's almost comical how biased some of you are.

    It's like you've been told for so long Curry was "great" that truth or facts or wins and losses be damned.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    Were they surprised by the Jacquot loss?