Why did Curry lose to Honeyghan?

You clearly can't name anyone significant Colin Jones beat.

And Jones was such a signature win for Curry. Who did Jones beat? You can't name one person? So you have to try to rip on Bumphus?

Doesn't that open your eyes even a little that you may be looking at this a little wrong?

 

Naah ,not for me I saw a lot of Honeyghan ,he wasn't in Curry's class.Lloyd was beat up by both Breland and Starling ,neither were as good as Curry at his best.

 

Surely Bumphus's win over Starling is very similar to Vaca's over Honeyghan (which was brutally avenged within months, btw).

 

You're right of course.
But you be called a "troll" for pointing all this out. Some people here just can't look at the records, the facts, so objectively. They are still deeply influenced by the boxing magazines and television hype that surrounded Curry in the 1980s.

 

I was ringside for both the Vaca fights , the first was a BS cut injury loss .

 

They are, true enough; the real point of that exchange to me is that the question he brought up asking "well who'd Curry ever beat then?" or something like that, to which I replied along the lines of "Oh, just the guy that kicked Honeyghan's azz" for starters.

I still maintain and always will that Curry track record and accomplishments outshine Honeyghan's. I don't see how it can be argued otherwise.

 

I'm not looking at it wrong. Jones was one of the best welters in the world at that time. Maybe not a huge scalp on his record, aside form holding McCrory to a draw (which isn't bad). The point being it CERTAINLY outshines anything Bumphus ever did, or Hatcher at that weight. They were both practically dead men walking when Honeyghan so bravely defended against them, yet you want to stack that B.S. up against Colin Jones? Jones would have eaten both of them alive on the same night. If you don't know that, you certainly should.

 

It's closer than people seem to imply though.
And Honeyghan beat the crap out of Curry, so that evens it right up.

 

Honeyghan said before the fight he would smash Curry's face in & that's what he did.
Never forget this fight & I said @ the time Honeyghan would win.After this Honeyghan stopped fighting on the back foot & lost some of his skills,he felt he could walk all over other boxers.

 

I saw Honeyghan V
Breland
Vaca x 2
Blocker
Bumphus
Shufford
Mittee
Twining
Stafford
Gilpin x2
Stafford
Hibbert
Sullivan
Never thought of him as an ,"on the back foot fighter"

 

Great list you had some amazing nights watching them v Curry he was in & out on his toes,after that he thought he could walk forward & beat any boxer.Honeyghan for me changed after the Curry fight.

 

My point is he wasn't an on the back foot fighter for the majority of those fights.
I liked Lloyd, I sat next to him a couple of times,despite his brash "ragamuffin" image I saw him being very ,gracious, patient and courteous to fans who wanted his autograph.
I confess when he was beating the likes of Sylvester Mittee I never thought he would get past Euro level.Terry Lawless had nightmares with him,and almost begged Mickey Duff to take him on,nobody was smarter than Mickey when it came to," moving a fighter",but Lloyd still had to do the business when his opportunity came and he did!

 

By backfoot I mean more on his toes in & out like with Curry,after this Lloyd lost what was so good about him boxing & he changed from that point.Don't get me wrong he beat Maurice Blocker after Curry,but should have done better v Breland.

 

I never said anything about Gene Hatcher. YOU DID.

Good Lord.

Now you're making it about GENE HATCHER? What does he have to do with anything?

All I said was Honeyghan beat Curry straight up. Just like Curry beat Starling. Just like Starling beat Honeyghan. NONE of them were GREAT. None of them were head and shoulders better than the others. They were all a very good crop of welters, like today's welters are a good crop.

I have no idea what drives you guys nuts about saying that.

Curry didn't dominate his era. He freaking won a vacant title against an unknown Korean (who had never done anything before that and never did anything after) who HAD CURRY ON THE FREAKING FLOOR in that fight. The IBF created its belt and just GAVE it to Curry. He didn't beat anyone for that one.

The McCrory win was great. But McCrory was just another good welterweight, too. But beating him wasn't any better than Honeyghan beating Curry or Lloyd beating a guy like Maurice Blocker. Blocker was a good welter, too.

How did Curry become this mythic welterweight in all your minds?

I'll never understand it. I watched his whole career as it happened. I never understood it then. I don't understand it now. Makes zero sense.

It makes as much sense to me as if someone today said Keith Thurman is head and shoulders above everyone else, and Thurman actually BEAT two name guys for titles. He didn't do it against some unknown Korean and then have a new org just create a belt and hand it to him.

And hell Keith Thurman arguably has beaten as good or better fighters at welterweight than Donald Curry did. I don't think Thurman OR Garcia is GREAT in the least. And neither has even gotten knocked out yet, like Curry did repeatedly.

Curry's era wasn't great either. Neither was Curry.

That era, like this one, is just a bunch of solid welters who all could beat the other on any given night (which is EXACTLY what happened back then ... and is what happens now.)

Think Shawn Porter is any worse than Starling? No. Starling lost to a number of not so good guys. Still, I loved watching Starling fight. But he wasn't great. No one from his era was, just like none of them from this era appears to be, either.

 

Honeyghan was just as good as any of them. They all lost to someone else in the group.

Honeyghan knocked out Roger Stafford, Johnny Bumphus, Donald Curry, Gianfranco Rosi and decisioned Maurice Blocker.

Lloyd may not have been better than Starling or Breland, but Lloyd was better than Donald Curry.

Lloyd proved it in the ring against Curry, where these arguments should be decided.

Whose to say Breland wouldn't have spanked Curry, too.