Why did dethroned, 17 month older, inactive, away Wlad at 41 do so much better against AJ than Fury?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NEETzschean, Aug 15, 2021.


Why?

Poll closed Aug 22, 2021.
  1. Quality (27 year old Fury was a lot better than 27 year old AJ)

    23.3%
  2. Styles (AJ's style was much easier for Wlad to deal with/AJ found it hard to deal with Wlad's style)

    53.5%
  3. Motivation (Wlad was bored after 22 defences and didn't see the mocking contender Fury as a threat)

    32.6%
  4. Some other factor or combination of factors (post below)

    11.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think cos age and other obstacles.
    Klits already were rich and with other things to do rather than fighting.
    EE fighters usually are not so selfish as ppl might think, they usually accept additional training and in rare cases have too big chip on shoulder like ppl might think.
    EE boxers does have two big curses: too late turn into a pro ( this is because pro boxing history in US and UK is casual thing, in countries like Ukraine this is from 1992 th and cos they then had too much other problems. It is young stuff in these countries ).
    After this: they usually does have inertia and does not retire in proper time despite they already does have enough $.
    Maybe this is thing that it is hard to accept that you are going to be old for the ring. I now feel this despite I still have very good gas tank.

    Rich, with a lot of other problems and things to deal with.
    Pulev pre fight already had showed this. I do not feel my post might had mean offence : tired and rich gentleman get fight vs Pulev damn. Then some Fury had appeared. Not likely he had fought vs Pulev and Fury cos money. I suspect inertia.
    Inertia is common thing for EE fighters.
    Vs A.J ofc he had get why he had been booked there ( anyone with brains knows this and this is business reason nothing more ) he attempted to prove something.

    While Klit is considered as worse than A.J cos this fight, not likely his life quatily might had been impacted if he did not had fights vs Pulev and Fury and A.J.

    I once had asked Vitaly, how went his sparring session vs guy X.Y and he just politely smiled and we had short talk about some other things. Later he just told: he is good.
    It is big difference with stuff posted in forums and stories and Vitali or Wlad in real life.
    I never had sparred with them, then I before knew them already had another road for my life but I a bit know Vitali in person.
    He is nice.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Wlad = Big Stiff Idiot
    AJ = Younger Big stiff idiot

    Fury = GOAT

    they can't compete

    Anyone making excuses for Wlad's performance against Fury saying "he didn't turn up" DKSAB. Dirty canvas cheat. one dimensional. Useless inside. Big stiff idiot. Bum dosser. Telegraphed bum!

    Wlad got bullied by two bigger younger and sexier men. He STILL hasn't got over his loss to Fury.
     
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  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you. Old Foreman, Holy or Vlauev, not alone Klits had delivered you in psychiatric clinic.

    Old Holyfield will press you till ICU without hitting.
    Little kid.
    You btw are cool and funny troll here.
    Without me anymore reading your **** posted from xx profiles my troll.
     
  4. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Styles make fights

    Wlad was basically mind blown and short of ideas against Fury.... he couldn't out jab him combined with Fury completely taking his right hand away
     
  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury was much better than Joshua and.......................stylistically a far more difficult opponent. Both of the first two answers are accurate.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said decent. What top heavyweight has Fury fought in the last 5 years that can put his punches together and no Otto Wallin does not count.

    You're right. I'll say im 80% sure Joshua beats because we all know he's chinny. However if he wasn't chinny then i would be 99% sure that he beats Fury.
     
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  7. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s hard to beat someone who never fights, and then even when they can be bothered to fight they choose to fight the likes of Sefer Seferi and Tom Schwartz.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Styles, clearly, as always.

    And while I don't like ever citing motivation or taking someone lightly, I do think it applies here. Wlad was coming back to reclaim lost glory against AJ. Against Fury, he was just still a ways behind Joe Louis' defense record.
     
  9. BCS8

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    Fury ran like a rabbit from the rematch. Fell into a sausage factory and had to eat his way out.
     
  10. Mr Applebee

    Mr Applebee Active Member Full Member

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    I voted styles, although I do think it had a little bit to do with Wlad not taking Fury seriously too.
     
  11. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you’re 99% sure then surely you’d feel confident putting all your money on that result. Will you do it if they fight?
     
  12. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Furys a mover...Ajs a plodder
     
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  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wlad changed up his style and let them go. Damn unlucky not to get the ko but that's hw boxing.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I literally just said im 80% sure because Aj has a weak chin but i also said hypothetically speaking if Aj wasn't chinny then i would be 99% sure. And yes if Aj wasn't chinny i would put a band or 2 on Aj. Even now im still putting 100-200 dollars on an Aj knockout if the fight happens.

    I would never bet the house on anything even if i was 100% sure because realistically anything can happen.
     
  15. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    The Gypsy King is multiple levels above both of those big stiff idiots.
     
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