Why did DLH lose Mosley v. DLH II

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  1. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And this folks, is a to-the-bone, typical Oscar hater. Sure, bud keep telling yourself this stuff.
     
  2. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Close fight. But no robbery, Mosley definitely won. If DLH ball washers want to cry robbery, they should discuss DLH/Sturm. One of the worst robberies of all time.
     
  3. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no problem with that one. I thought Oscar lost -- he looked awful. He lost Mosley 1 pretty clearly and the fight vs. Mayweather. The Pernell fight was awful but at least Oscar was trying to fight while Pernell relied on his antics and one punch at a time. Trinidad fight was clear but Oscar did get robbed and the quartey fight I had Oscar up by one point when the smoke cleared. The Mosley 2 fight looked clear also, and didn't have a doubt Oscar pulled it off along with every hater in the bar that night who disliked Oscar but thought he pulled it off too.

    The real factor here is just watch Shanes discouragement throughout the fight along with his father, and watch shanes reaction/SHOCK when he was announced the winner. That says it all.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I believe my score was 116-112 for Mosley, but it was one of those fights where going in Mosley coming off of two losses to Vernon Forrest, was being underestimated by the boxing media........and because of this, I too was suprised that the judges were unanimous in their integrity to score the fight fairly.
    .....more often than not, a matchup like that in the situation that found both boxers going in, would have scored for the media darling DLH.


    ......and correction on your contention that Mosley Sr. told Shane he needed a KO......thats not what he said.....to quote him exactly, "you got to win this round, you got to knock him down to win the fight!"


    ......now on my card Mosley only needed to survive the 12th and not take any chances........but if I was in Mosley's corner I would have put it in much harsher terms than what Sr. instructed, knowing the circumstances that found Shane in a competitive enough fight going down to the final round against a media darling.

    My words would have been more like and in yelling terms..."Shane, we need this round big. Leave it all in the ring, put him on his ass or they're going to take it from you."


    Mosley Sr. explained it afterward that he knew who they were fighting and it was likely that some of the closer rounds would be given to DLH, so he had to implore his son to leave it all in the ring.
    Trainers do it all the time, tell their fighters the fights up in the air even though they're comfortably ahead.
     
  6. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    He didn't lose to him as far as im concerned, DLH put how many rounds in the bank in the first half of the fight, worst DLH should of got is a draw.
     
  7. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I give it to mosley every time. However it was a close fight and I can't hate on anyone who thought Oscar won either.
     
  8. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    Mosley won fight #1 dlh won fight #2
     
  9. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    now are we talking clean fighers/fighter???
     
  10. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    I had DLH well ahead.
     
  11. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not a Delahoya hater. I just find it very hard to fall in love with the guy like a lot of people on this forum have.

    C'mon folks, the Sturm decision wasn't even close. The sad thing about that fight was that it would have never been signed if the Hopkins fight wasn't signed. I don't know if Sturm was supposed to be a tune-up or test for Delahoya at a bigger weight, but that fight ranks right up there with Ali vs Norton III, Leonard vs Hearns II and Holyfield vs Lewis I, IMO, as the biggest robberies in boxing.

    Regardless of who actually won the Whitaker and Quartey fights, how can any boxing fan be impressed with Delahoya's demeanor, especially after the Quartey fight. He chickened out of a rematch plain and simple, saying "there's bigger and better fights out there for me? How do you explain that one? After arguably getting his butt whupped for the majority of the rounds in that fight, he barely escapes a questionable decision victory only to avoid a rematch? Sure, Delahoya can call out Julio Cesar Chavez for a rematch who he beat fairly convincly in the first fight but no rematches with Whitaker, Quartey or Sturm?

    Delahoya couldn't find any excuses after the Mayweather fight because he was clearly out-boxed. Maybe het hought his coming foward without affective aggression and shoeshine trading with Mayweather might win him the fight considering the crowd noise was on his side.

    Again, not a Delahoya hater. The man had very good skills and I like the fact that he always came back after he took a big shot. Even though I still believe Quartey beat him and I know I'm not alone in that sentiment, I was impressed by Delahoya's toughness after that wicked right hand shot that Quartey landed flush in the ninth round. Delahoya came right back after that shot to try and right himself in the round which I give him big props for. I do appreciate Delahoya's fighting heart in the ring, I don't appreciate him not giving the boxing world the rematches it needed during troubled times. It's not all Oscar's fault, but he shares some of the blame. How can you not argue that the Golden Boy, like Wayne Gretzky has been protected in his sport because he one of the biggest stars?!
     
  12. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you the_what.

    I don't understand how any boxing fan cannot see the wrong that came from the Sturm decision. That was bad for boxing and a black mark on Delahoya's career. There's no way that Delahoya won that fight.
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a good fight that DLH clearly won, but the decision was given to Shane. Shane just didn't do well this fight. He had too many problems coping with the boxing of DLH in the rematch but to his credit he did try to slow DLH down by going to his body. It just wasn't enough to win the fight, although he won on paper. The decision wasnt a good one but Shane's a great fighter.....he just got lucky by getting the nod in a fight he didn't win. DLH has been lucky himself so it happens.
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL....this would be accurate for this fight.
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I scored Trinidad-DLH to Tito by a point. DLH clearly beat Mosley in their 2nd fight, I didn't think it was particualrly close. Mosley won 4 rounds at best.