Why Did Fitz Do So MUch Better 2nd Time Around?

Did you answer my question..no. I won't play your baby game. Anyone can read fight records. Very different understanding boxing history. Two completely different ideas.

 

I'd rather be gutless than a despicable person such as you. Lowest of the low.

 

At least I knew about the Ali Norton jaw break controversy....you did not. At least I knew Ali took credit for winning his first bout with Frazier....you did not.

 

Despicable person.


NY times May 15. 1971
"That unanimous, seemingly indisputable decision? A gift, according to Ali from racially motivated White Judges. Much like morality...or decency, reality had little to do with what Ali said regarding Frazier. He wanted to convince his adoring public that Joe was an imposter who was handed a victory he did not deserve."

Look up any newspaper account from the time all you will read is how Ali says he really won the fight, the judges were white and Frazier was an Uncle Tom.

Do your own research I am tired of trying to educate you.

Where is your evidence that Alis jaw was broken in round one which Alis doctor changed to round two? Five days and you have shown nothing.

 

Everyone can see you are a know nothing fantasist, but this is too moronic even by your retarted standards.

Ali LOST his first fight with Frazier.

 

Your the obvious liar which is shown in your word twisting and squirming in any way you can to avoid confronting the truth. Pathetic.

NY times May 15. 1971
"That unanimous, seemingly indisputable decision? A gift, according to Ali from racially motivated White Judges. Much like morality...or decency, reality had little to do with what Ali said regarding Frazier. He wanted to convince his adoring public that Joe was an imposter who was handed a victory he did not deserve."

I even have an independent doctors opinion regarding Ali Norton 1. Note he does not claim Alis jaw was broken in round one then switches to round two when it's realized no major blows were struck in round one as did Pacheco.....

Chicago Tribune May 13 1973
"The decision really was not in doubt. The only controversy was when Alis jaw was broken. Ali said round one while Norton insisted it was in round 12. Dr. Fredrick Barnes who has a practice downtown looked at the xray of Alis broken jaw he feels that the injury had to have happened late in the fight. "The ends of the bones at the break were very close together. Had the break happened early and was beaten upon for many rounds that gap would have been wider". "With such a complete break I would have expected some level of injury to the other side of Alis jaw since it would be taking the full brunt of Nortons punches for so many rounds." Another claim by Ali was that he sprained his ankle but he spent the entire 11th round dancing and moving so just how badly could the injury have been?"

Again all of this was decided 40 years ago. The overwhelming opinion was that Alis jaw was not broken early but more than likely in round 12. So it's not just my opinion it's boxing history. Something you obviously ignore based on the quality of your posts.

 

This recorded at the time might help.

Ali: "Joe Frazier is an Uncle Tom. He works for the enemy."

Frazier: "He never done nothing for me. I was poor once and he never sent me anything. Now I am helping him. Talk about a true brother. I am for real. Tell him I picked him up when he was down. Preaching don't mean you are a true man. You got to go out and do."

Ali: "You don't understand, Frazier will be easier than Quarry or Bonavena. I'll just hold his head and I'll tell him, 'Come on, Champ.' I'll just play with him. He'll be trying all those short hooks and not reaching me and I'll be moving and saying, 'Come on, champ. You can do better than that.'"

Frazier: "Clay's a big guy but I've fought big guys before. Movers, too. He says I won't reach him but that's a broad statement. He will find the ring will get smaller and I will get bigger. I don't see the job taking more than 10 rounds. I'll be talking to Clay in there. I always talk in my fights and I've got something special to say to him after all this crap about me being an Uncle Tom."



Frazier: "A white lawyer kept him out of jail. And he's going to Uncle Tom me. THEE Greatest, he called himself. Well, he wasn't The Greatest, and he certainly wasn't THEE Greatest ... It became my mission to show him the error of his foolish pride. Beat it into him."

Ali: "I'm not going to cry. I made a lot of people unhappy when I beat them, so it's my time now. I'm not going to cry. A lot of great fighters get whipped. No one can hit as hard as Frazier. I'm satisfied with the fight even though I lost. I know I lost to a great champion, but maybe another time when both of us had been fighting regularly, the result would have been different. I don't know, but maybe."

Frazier: "I remember when I heard the bell, I looked at Ali and said, 'Yeah, I kicked your ass.'"

Now personally I don't give a **** for people who write in newspapers or other journals. Their job is to sell the garbage they peddle.

From the horses mouths is better for me.

 

"Ali never publicly admited Frazier beat him (although privately with friends he did). Instead he portrayed the outcome as "a white mans decision"."

This again is very common knowledge . This is more widely known and understood than the broken jaw incident with Norton if thats possible. You cant get more common knowledge than Alis denial of Frazier beating him after fight one.

 

From an article in BI July 1973....

"Soon as Ali was reinstated he was directed by the Nation of Islam to turn his back on his friend. By all accounts Joe Frazier has always been and to this day is a*"good guy". The type of guy that would give you the shirt off his back.

But in life sometimes it is the person who talks the loudest who gets heard the most.So when Ali spoke people listened. They listen to the names:Joe Frazier is an uncle tom.They listened to the accusations:Joe Frazier is the white man's champion.They listened to the hyperbole:The heavyweight champion should be pretty not ugly like Joe Frazier.

Before the first Ali/Frazier fight Ali boasted if he lost he would crawl across the ring, bow to Frazier and call him*"The Greatest". After getting his butt kicked by Frazier he left the arena and claimed he won and that the white judges gave Frazier the decision unjustly."

Again very very common knowledge.

 

Sorry thats July 1975 not 73.