Why did Floyd use USADA and not VADA?

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    The fact he did nothing wrong is a fact. He was not cleared because he did not need to be cleared. The rest of the things you refer to are not facts. Why don’t you prove those assertions. Go on son prove Floyd was a drugs cheat.
     
  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You are the joke son.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Hey C.J. I have been waiting for you to join this thread because of your hatred of Floyd and NSAC. Your mates here want to discredit Floyd as usual.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    A fighter does not have an IV of that magnitude in his house without reporting it.

    If you read Hauser’s articles, you would see experts state that taking an IV wouldn’t have had as much benefit as taking it orally. And we’re talking here about a pro of 20 years, with a huge team of people around him in a fight that grossed $400m.

    So even if the IV and the amount were both legal, he didn’t take the best course of action.

    You also can’t tell us why he was severely dehydrated.
     
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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    When you can prove Floyd cheated then come and show me me baby in the good old way as in The Show me state of Missouri. The fight grossed over $400 Milion Dollars that is a fact. Closer to $500 Million perhaps slightly more.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    We’re only dealing in facts.

    No opinions.

    Just facts.


    These are the facts:

    USADA didn’t report the incident to the commission, despite the fact that they were legally obligated to do so.

    Floyd tells them when to start the tests.

    Floyd told them that he wanted a retroactive TUE clause put in the contract, in case anybody had any prohibited substances.

    They do not test both samples.

    They do not give comprehensive results, only summaries, where things have been missed in the past.

    They have an in-house judicial system.

    They have only ever caught one fighter, and that fighter was allowed to fight AFTER he’d failed the tests.


    Those are the facts of USADA.

    Not opinions, but facts.

    But you already know that, right? Seeing as though you’ve definitely read the articles and that Thomas Hauser is your friend.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Off to sleep now but will happily chat with you tomorrow . Goodnight Gentlemen apart from the one poster I will not be conversing with who is a disgrace to his family.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    So it’s of no relevance that the IV and the amount was illegal, and that Bennett had no knowledge of it?

    That’s okay?

    Thomas Hauser is apparently your friend.

    Thomas Hauser has EXPOSED USADA.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thomas Hauser is not your friend.

    That man has been a highly respected boxing author and journalist for 20 odd years.

    A friend of Thomas Hauser’s would never read the facts that he’s documented and then ask the questions that you keep asking.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Floyd broke NSAC 3 rules at least He received an ILLEGAL EXCESSIVE 750 ml of saline drip in his own home.
    750 ml of saline is many times the dose of a legal saline drip
    Saline must only be administered in a medical facility not cloak & dagger style in your own home
    A TUE MUST be obtained from the NSAC prior to any treatment
    All that happened was the NSAC issued the statement " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong so we will not be investigating the matter " ROFLMAO
    Then they issued him a retroactive TUE nearly THREE WEEKS AFTER he was caught But failed to give any reason for him needing the treatment
    Any medical person used to giving saline drips will tell you this......
    Any patient that needed that amount of saline drip due to him being dehydrated to that extent would be in ICU while they fought to save his kidneys NOT running round a boxing ring for 36 minutes So......
    The question was never answered as to WHY Mayweather needed that saline was it WE ALL KNOW why Floyd needed it dont we does Bob Bennett & his cronies think we came in on the banana boat ??????
    Boxing needs an International Commission its obvious the State commissions are corrupt
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I dont hate Floyd But I will say i do not have one iota of respect for him Vegas Boxing or the NSAC or any other State commision. Corruption is rampant No one needs to discredit Floyd he did that to himself The NSAC only made him look more guilty when they vainly attempted to cover his cheating ass
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Okay.

    Your judgement is based upon facts.

    Yet I have given you FOURTEEN FACTS which you have completely IGNORED.

    So altogether, there’s 16 FACTS in this debate which has now been highlighted.

    16.

    Yet you want to only choose 2, but ignore the other 14?

    Really?

    Well then you can’t claim to any poster that you only deal in facts. Because clearly you don’t.

    You only want to focus on the facts that suit you, and not all of them.

    If it’s a fact you don’t like, you push it away.

    Then you accuse us all of hating Floyd.

    You should hang your head in shame.

    You are an absolute embarrassment.
     
  13. Loudon

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    What was written in the articles was factual.

    It’s not Hauser’s opinion that Bennett didn’t know.

    It’s a fact that Bennett didn’t know.

    Yes, the head of any state commission, legally has to be notified of such actions.

    How are they unsubstantiated points?

    Bob Bennett was furious.

    All of your posts just scream out that you haven’t read those articles.

    Why have you pretended to read them when you clearly haven’t?
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    As Bob Dylan once wrote:

    “Money doesn’t talk, it swears”

    Let me ask you a question about Lance.

    I don’t know if you’re a fan of cycling. But in his interview with Oprah, he swore blind that although he cheated in all of his tour victories, he didn’t cheat in his last race where he finished in 3rd place, which was an incredible achievement due to his age and the fact that he’d been out for so long.

    Do you think he was telling the truth?

    Or do you think he was lying, but just wanted to hold that one thing back as he’d confessed to everything else?

    I don’t know what to believe.
     
  15. Loudon

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    You cannot disagree with the facts he has documented.

    How can you?

    They’re researched facts that have never been disputed.

    You do not know that Floyd is clean.

    You’ve just convinced yourself that he is.