Why did Fury and Davison split?

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  1. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere (I'm sure it has)

    First, Fury said he wanted to make a change because his training routine had gone stale, later he said it was Davidson's choice to leave...

    It can't be both.

    Does anyone know the real reason?
     
  2. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    his father made him switch trainers and said he was getting hit too often and not improving
     
  3. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are Fury went along with this without questioning it?
     
  4. Crixus139

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    Fury wanted a little switch up, also to work on power and thus decided to bring in Sugar Hill. Davidson didn't want to share training responsibilities so they split.
     
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    Fury wants to be more aggressive in the rematch which davison disagreed with. I think davison also didn't want sugar hill in the camp so something had to give. Ultimately the fighter is the employer. Better for Fury to call the shots and take ownership of his decisions
     
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    The sex wasn't great anymore.
     
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    Hopefully Eggman can help with some info
     
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    Latest Gareth Davies interview explains it mostly, though not an important detail.
    It sounds on the surface as though Davison left because he didn't want another trainer competing with him, perhaps contradicting him, same problem he had with Roach. This seems perhaps impulsive from Davison and a mistake to throw away the job, but ...

    ... a comment from Hill suggested that it wasn't like the Davison Roach situation with Davison still the lead and Roach just helping out.
    Sugar Hill commented that the dynamic was to be him as main trainer, Davison still on the team. If that was the case, it's understandable Davison left, because he's become the subordinate with a fighter he just trained to beat Wilder, a bigger win than anything Hill has accomplished. But Davison might have gotten lucky with Saunders coming back just before a possible Canelo fight, which is why he is still in good spirits.

    The fact Fury took such a step does suggest he is serious about changing his approach, that it isn't bluff. The question is will it pay off not focusing so much on cardio/movement/defence. I think Fury was caught between a rock and hard place as far as style goes. Davison wanted a very defensive style but Fury admitted that he couldn't have been more elusive and still got almost KO'd, because it's 12 rounds, so it's understandable he thinks he needs to do something else. But demoting Davison then losing him might be a big mistake. I think he would have been better off using Davison and having Roach helping with punching, maybe Davison would have agreed to that because Roach was more respectful of the secondary role. I think Davison seems very meticulous in his analysis of fighters, shame to lose that.
     
  10. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    The real reason?

    Fury got his ass handed to him by some Swedish meatball nobody.

    He got out-boxed for like the first time ever. Wlad and Wilder almost KOd him, sure, but getting out-boxed? That was new.

    It was impressive that Fury dug deep and overcame the horrific cut, but he was still having a rough time of it even before the cut.

    I can't really see Davison going, "Well, you sucked in there, so I'm leaving." Therefore, I think it's clear Fury dumped Davison -- perhaps motivated to do so by Peter -- because Fury just didn't feel like he was getting adequate training.
     
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  11. Holler

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    Not sure that was an option after Roach's comments post fight. They smoothed it over as best they could, but there didn't look to be the basis of an ongoing relationship.

    I think Davison was right to pull the plug rather than hanging around with his status devalued.
     
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    Davison isnt a trainer with very much experience and hasnt learned what he knows off a vastly experienced trainer.

    He is essentially bluffing it. Yes he is a student of the game. But in the end, Tyson Fury was no longer learning anything new from him or developing at all. Sugar Hill will teach Tyson Fury new things. He was stagnating and going backwards under Davison as we could see for ourselves in the ring.

    It is a great move for Tyson Fury to leave and go to Sugar Hill. Davison also can now attract new fighters based off his work with Fury.
     
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  13. Serge

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    Because after getting robbed blind in their first encounter over on Bootleg D's turf, and Bootleg D categorically refusing to fight him over on his turf, Fury has to return to the scene of the crime where he was robbed and is adamant he can only win if he takes it out of the judge's hands. Hence why he enlisted the services of a trainer he feels will help him achieve that. Unfortunately it increases the chance of him getting KTFO. But what can you do when your opponent isn't man enough to do the thing once that you're doing twice?

    Timestamped and he also touches on it earlier on in the vid about the 7 minute mark

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    2013 quote from Bootleg D on fighting Fury


    ''I would fight him anywhere," said Wilder. "I'm a traveller, a global fighter, I fight anywhere all over the world that's how you become legendary. You become legendary by not being afraid to go into enemy territory when the time comes or when duty calls.''

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    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Yeah, Davison is an asset definitely, they'll be back together imo after this fight with Wilder
     
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    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    32 isn't old, but it isn't the age to re-think one's game either. I'll wager at this point in his career he is what he is.