Why did Hopkins skip 168?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by toffeejack, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2007
    Messages:
    16,351
    Likes Received:
    3
    Because Hopkins takes the big fights, and Tarver was the big fight back then. Also he was perhaps after rematch with Jones at LH...

    This content is protected
    This content is protected
    ,
    This content is protected
     
  2. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2007
    Messages:
    8,219
    Likes Received:
    3
    To avoid Calzaghe imo.

    Plus we all know Tarver was never much cop to begin with, Hopkins saw the weaknesses, just as he did with Pavlik.
     
  3. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2007
    Messages:
    11,778
    Likes Received:
    40

    :roll:
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Messages:
    12,013
    Likes Received:
    3
    It's simple, there was more money at 175 by far.
     
  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    Messages:
    9,760
    Likes Received:
    10
    Actually, Hopkins stated prior to the first Taylor fight that because of his age, his body just couldnt handle the physicality of getting to 160 anymore, and that after the first fight with Jermain, he would be moving up. Only staying for one more fight because he believed he had won the first one.

    And as for him "starting his career" at 175...it was for a few fights and he had stated that he didnt feel comfortable at that weight, so as you stated, he dropped down to a more comfortable 160.
     
  6. re: Calzaghe

    Bernard never considered him more than a fraud and generally a typical white hype job and didn't think he was worth his time. Hop looked like he didn't really train for the fight (when it occurred) so clearly he thought he could KO such a limited fighter without any substantive prep. He underrated Joe's level of effort (not his skillset though). Also, 168 as a division doesn't have a long historical legacy like 160 & 175. He was killing himself to make 160 and 168 (at 43) wouldn't have alleviated that circumstance much (i.e., he wanted to put on some muscle and feel better which with his frame meant 175 not 168). The real targets for his legacy and the greater ring accomplishment was waiting at 175 in Hop's view. No US great from Hop's era EVER really noticed Calzaghe as any kind of obstacle, peer, or fighter with a legitimate legacy.
     
  7. smellmyfinger

    smellmyfinger tiger Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    792
    Likes Received:
    0
    To dodge Mundine
     
  8. bennyj

    bennyj Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    Messages:
    2,390
    Likes Received:
    2
    He was afraid of fighting Sven Ottke in germany, bhop wouldve lost a decision
     
  9. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,150
    Likes Received:
    2
    Tarver was like a stuffed Turkey on haloween.
     
  10. Trevor Ross

    Trevor Ross New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    0
    his age, 175 was probably way easier to make then 168.
     
  11. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    Messages:
    9,760
    Likes Received:
    10

    You mean, he would have won every round, but lost a decision.

    :yep
     
  12. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    7,367
    Likes Received:
    31
    :rofl :yep.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2007
    Messages:
    38,679
    Likes Received:
    13,482
    Because he saw something, and knew he could beat Tarver.