Why did Jame Toney Vs Eubank/Benn not happen?

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  1. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't know, I was just posting up Eubank's take on it
     
  2. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Eubank is lying. Sky gave him a massive deal and allowed him to chose his own opponents and look who he chose. They wanted Toney, but Eubank was never going to make that fight, said so himself.
     
  3. ELECTRIC GURU

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    They all took place when James Toney was IBF super-middleweight champion, did they not?

    Imagine the outrage if Andre Ward did this in his next 10 fights.

    James Toney has shamed the sport of boxing in so many ways.
     
  4. general zod

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    They all took place at lhw-cw catchweights, which is why his ibf smw belt was never on the line. Toney only 5 title fights at smw:
    barkley
    Thornton
    littles
    williams
    Jones
     
  5. knockout artist

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    Whilst he had some terrible defences, he did make the big domestic fights and stepped in with some of the best fighters at the time

    However, when Eubank could make £1m per defence to fight nobodies, I don't blame him for not facing the likes of Nunn and Toney!
     
  6. ELECTRIC GURU

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    They all took place whilst toney was IBF 168 champ. quit crying about it, quit splitting hairs, and stop trying to defend the indefencible. you know and i know that what Toney did was a bloody disgrace.

    Focus your time and energy on debating elsewhere because you can never change these facts.
     
  7. general zod

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    He did face some of the best British fighters, but none of the best world class fighters
    :good
    He was a business man more than a fighter
     
  8. general zod

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    ?????????
    What are you going on about?
    So all of a sudden his not that guy who fought Nunn and Mccallum because he faced a bunch of nobodies during keep busy fights. The fact that he never forced HBO to buy those fights or used them to rack up title defenses speaks for itself.

    Eubank:
    Benn:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/weblog/news.php?p=5604&more=1
     
  9. knockout artist

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    Yeah that's fair, though he did face world class fighter in those big domestic match ups.

    On the topic of Toney v Benn & Eubank, I think Toney would have TKO'd Benn in the later rounds. Toney-Eubank would have been a close fight, with neither man wanting to lead I think Eubank's movement would have given Toney fits, it comes down to who would land the better punches the exchanges
     
  10. ELECTRIC GURU

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    It was self explanatory, why are you trying to split hairs? Don't let those facts spoil you day zod because there is nothing you can type that will change those facts that are set in stone.

    Whilst Toney was IBF 168 champion, his level of competition disgraced the sport of boxing.
     
  11. general zod

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    We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one
     
  12. Mind Reader

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    He got in the Ring with Roy Jones at 168 didn't he?:huh

    Not what i call disgraceful competition.

    It was obvious by the video, he was trying to get fights with Benn and Eubank as well.
     
  13. general zod

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    I would place Watson around champion level with the likes of Woods, Graciano and Glen Johnson.

    Never really been sold on Collins. He basically came along at the right time. Eubank had no business losing to that guy twice.

    Eubank slipped a level himself when he moved up to smw and became a lazy fighter
    Terrible match up for Benn. That fight has Toney-Barkley 2.0 written on it. I agree that Benn gets stopped late

    Toney was a step above anyone the Eubank had ever faced. He was the better counterpuncher and he was better at fighting off the front foot than Eubank, who tended to look awkward and off balance at times.
     
  14. SouthpawJab

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    :patsch @ the blatant ducking by Benn and Eubank.
     
  15. SouthpawJab

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