Why did Jeffries defend against John Finnegan in1900 ?

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  1. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with everything you have written, and Jackson is one of my favourites, but i have to be honest, i find the broken heart drove him to drink theory a little hollow. If (for example) it was Jackson not Corbett who KOd Sullivan, is there any doubt, that he would have succumbed to the drink and the same temptations that the vast majority of world champions did. If you dont recognise Jacksons reign until a mythical corbett or sullivan victory, it seems he was destined for a brief but spectacular reign.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Good question ,I think there is room for doubt and here's why.

    Jackson,if he had beaten Sullivan ,which seems likely at the tail end of John L's reign,would have defended against Corbett ,and probably beaten him too,imo
    .He would have had no necessity to come to the UK and fight Slavin for a spurious Commonwealth /British Empire title.

    It is my understanding that Jackson was feted in the UK ,but not in the US his colour was more "acceptable" here ,and his gentlemanly deportment ensured he was feted and lionised wherever he went.

    Without the wellwishers ,and back slappers he attracted in the UK ,I think he may well have stayed on the straight and narrow,as an athlete in training.
    Just my thoughts.
     
  4. mcvey

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  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This thread has ran its course.......:hi:

    MR.BILL:good
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Probably, but it has served its purpose.
    Thanks for your inputs :good
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Agreed, and I have seen thread starter create this one before. :)

    I do I want to say this. Anytime a lineal champion is in a Queensberryprize fight without odd rules ( such as last 4 rounds and collect money ), the lineal title is on the line whether its billed as a title fight or not. This fight was scheduled for 10 rounds. Jeffries ended the match in 55 seconds ( which included the count ), which is still a record to this day in heavyweight boxing.
     
  8. mcvey

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    That's not the only record that stands here.

    Finnegan went into the title fight with 4 wins in 11 fights ,only 2 of them over heavyweights,one of whom was having his first and only fight ,the other's record was 8-14-2.

    This would be enough to qualify Finnegan as the single, most underserving title challenger ever. But there is even more, less than 3 months prior to this title shot ,in his last fight before challenging Jeffries , Finnegan was absolutely annihilated by Gus Ruhlin, he was knocked down 7 times in 4 rounds even being punched right out of the ring,at one point.

    NO challenger has ever less deserved a shot at a world title than Jack Finnegan,that is a record that I am confident will stand forever.