Why did Jose Palacios get a title shot at Palomino?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Briscoe, Mar 6, 2010.


  1. Briscoe

    Briscoe Active Member Full Member

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    The man was 5(2)-8-1 during his title shot in 1977 and finished with a career 8(3)-16-1. I didn't see the fight, and it's quite obvious I've been gleaming from boxrec. I checked news sources, nothing. Checked SI Vault, barely a mention. Any reason this guy got a shot at Carlos Palomino's version of the welterweight title? I'd like to think someone dropped out at the last second.
     
  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Briscoe, first let me say that his record is mis-leading. Mexican boxers are some of the hardest to track. I personally have found results of Palacios years earlier than what is posted. Boxrec does a great job (I don't know why people here berate boxrec, do they remember how it used to be for a fan trying to find a fighter's record?) but it still is a work in progress. Secondly, although Palomino had a successful reign, he was guided superbly by Jackie McCoy through a lot of landmines. Firstly, and I like Palomino - I think he was a terrific fighter, but he didn't deserve a title shot himself. Let's face it, who did he beat? A washed up Zovek Barajas, who had previously held Carlos to a draw and another draw with veteran Hedgemon Lewis (I scored that fight 5-4-1 Lewis but was impressed with Palomino). That was it. Armando Muniz should have been the man to get that title shot at Stracey. The Olympic Boxing Club had an option on Stracey's next defense but opted for McCoy's Palomino (McCoy was in tight with Aileen Eaton) rather than Muniz. Palomino made 8 defenses and I would regard only Muniz (twice), Boy Green and Benitez as worthy challengers. Palacios should never have gone beyond fighting for the Mexican title but sprung an upset by winning a split 10 rounder over an out of shape Muniz and they give him a title shot. Ridiculous! Likewise Mimoun Mohatar who was a complete bum. Everaldo Azevedo who lost his previous fight to Pedro Rojas (whom the only time I ever remember his name mentioned was getting obliterated by an up and coming Tommy Hearns) also should never have been near the title. Maybe I'll give a pass to Ryu Sorimachi who was holding the OPBF welterweight title, but to tell you the truth, he was fighting only ordinary opposition himself. So, as you can see, Palomino got quite a few "gimme's" in his career. McCoy should have steered him towards Clyde Gray, Harold Weston and Pete Ranzany, which could have defined his career more. Pipino Cuevas wasn't ducking these fighters and I feel he had the much more impressive reign. Even a rematch with Andy Price would have been more impressive than the Mimoun Mohatars of the world.

    Scartissue
     
  3. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beat Armando Muniz, who was a legit leading contender at the time, which broke Palacios into The Ring's top 10.
     
  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is not is whole complete record, boxing records got it wrong this time. Palacios was a tough fighter hardly top contender status but you could make a case for him being deserving since he upset top contender Muniz. Hard to track all of his fights in Mexico.
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    A couple of sources quote his record at something like 43-8 coming into this fight.
     
  6. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    It would be nice to have boxing records that are 100 percent accurate.

    Boxrec is trying, but they have a ways to go.

    Anyways, yeah, Palacios beat Armando Muniz to crack the top 10.
     
  7. Doc McCoy

    Doc McCoy Member Full Member

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    And what a great fight it was too. Palacios really fought well against Muniz that night.
     
  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because except for an old Armando Muniz, Palimono faced smear cases, while Cuevas fought the ranked contenders and destroyed them.:hat
     
  9. BoxingAlmanac

    BoxingAlmanac New Member Full Member

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    Yet if you ever watched the Palomino-Azevedo fight you would see he beat Palomino fairly easily.