Why did Mike Tyson fail to KO James Tillis in ‘86?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

    Jul 15, 2008
    Tyson was 19, a brand new pro and learning ... Tillis was still a contender, had fought and gone the distance fighting for the title, far more experienced and came into the bout in terrific condition and unafraid .. Tillis had a ton of experience .. he fought Mike Weaver, Pinklon Thomas, Greg Page, Tyrell Briggs, Shavers, Williams and other really tough guys .. It was a step up in class and all things considered Tyson handled it well .. it was a competitive fight for sure but ZI don't remember any moments where it seemed Mike was in danger of losing ..
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 4, 2017
    Tyson was far more skilled than Morrison was.
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 4, 2017
    Do you also feel Nigel Benn had better resume than G-man?
  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Dec 10, 2014
    Tubbs, Tucker, Williams and Holmes had very good jabs and pretty good feet.

    Of course Tyson was further developed, prime actually, when he faced them.

    Tillis showed that Tyson had to learn to deal with a good jab and movement and someone who wouldnt fold after a few rounds. He gained more valuable experience when he was forced to go 10 with Mitch Green who had a good jab and movement as well as a very solid chin. Then Ribalta who had a good chin went 9 plus rounds. By the Time he faced Berbick, Tyson was much more experienced than he was pre-Tillis.

    When he faced Tillis he had been a pro only one year ,had never had to fight past 6 rounds, was not yet 20 years old and was not yet close to his peak.
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  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

    Oct 16, 2019
    I’m talking about all time greatness not skill, obviously Tyson is levels above Morrison in skill
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    lol bruh his middle name was literally quick.

    - making @Boxed Ears' post for him.
  7. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Addict Full Member

    Apr 9, 2020
    I wouldn't say Tyson is close to Morrison, although his resume is inferior to Holy's, it's more like half way in btw the two imo.
  8. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Addict Full Member

    Apr 9, 2020
    Ya, Tillis didn't have the power to hurt Tyson, although I think he was outpointing Tyson. Tyson was in danger of losing the decision. I think it was a good first big name test for Tyson, and probably wisely chosen for Tyson. Imagine if Tyson had fought Thomas, Berbick, or Dokes for his first big fight, that would have been interesting, and Tyson may have lost perhaps.
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  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Okay, well, my cousin met him and that's what he said it was but like if some geek on Wikipedia says some other thing I'm sure that's worth more to people like you but whatever.
  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    Tillis was actually a very good and durable fighter and in my opinion had elite talent when he showed up in shape, focused, and alcohol free, but unfortunately this Tillis rarely showed up.
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  11. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

    Sep 11, 2017
    @mark ant If there were a linen factory specifically dedicated to manufacturing best-selling items of clothing which feature the likenesses of late 80s heavyweight champions... I think it would still produce fewer Tyson threads than you do! :)
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Devotee of the Little Red Book Full Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    Not everybody falls on a given night. It's just the way it goes.
  13. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    Nov 13, 2010
    Man your reading skills are absolutely horrendous!! If you're talking about me, I never said Tyson was invincible. SO Tyson's just supposed to steamroll his opposition? This fight proved a few things: that Tyson could go the distance against a seasoned world class fighter, and just because Tyson doesn't knock you out within 5 rounds doesn't mean he'll quit.

    I swear, if Mike never went 10 or 12 rounds you'd be on that train claiming he couldn't or wouldn't do it. The typical Tyson Hater!! Congrats on your new branding.
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  14. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    Nov 13, 2010
    Tyson's greatness is on par with Tommy Morrison? LMFAO!! Add this to the chalk board as one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 23, 2019
    I remember I was living in Portland, Maine when the Mercer fight happened. Every white kid in there would have practically blown Morrison that night, but I knew way better and couldn't help but crack up watching Tommy lose so spectacularly. I was a little surprised he fought after that but hey, he did legitimately beat George Foreman (only what, five guys ever did that? Four, because I certainly don't count mother****in' Briggs).
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