Why did Morrison look so slow vs Lewis?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Just put in to Gemini does Hiv weaken your immune system, before it becomes AIDS.. it's easy enough.
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Also, partied out. Alcohol and likely meth sap all the snap. Add all those things up and you get what you saw.
     
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  3. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to ChatGPT:

    "Yes, it's certainly possible that Tommy Morrison's performances were affected by HIV before he developed AIDS, but there's no way to say with confidence how much, if at all.

    A few important points:

    • HIV can be present for years before progressing to AIDS. During that period, some people remain largely asymptomatic, while others experience fatigue, reduced endurance, slower recovery, weight loss, recurrent infections, or other symptoms that could affect athletic performance.
    • Morrison tested HIV-positive in 1996, which effectively ended his mainstream boxing career. He later died from AIDS-related complications in 2013.
    • There has been long-running controversy over when he actually contracted HIV. Some reports and later legal documents suggested he may have known about an HIV diagnosis years earlier, while Morrison and others at times disputed aspects of his diagnosis. The historical record is not completely settled.
    From a boxing perspective, some fans point to performances such as his loss to Lennox Lewis in 1995 and wonder whether HIV had already diminished him. However, Morrison was also facing elite opposition, had a history of injuries, fought an aggressive style that could leave him vulnerable, and lived a lifestyle that reportedly included substance abuse and other factors that could affect performance.

    So the most accurate answer is:

    Yes, HIV could theoretically have affected Morrison's stamina, recovery, and overall athletic performance before AIDS developed. But there is no clear evidence proving that any specific decline in his boxing career was caused by HIV rather than the many other factors involved."
     
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  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I find your claim that you've completed 2 x college courses on HIV doubtful.

    If true, you should ask for your money back.
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It gave a waffling answer that includes initial infection, which I’m excluding.

    Gemini on thinking mode is superior anyway.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You still owe student loans from Clown College.
     
  7. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha, methinks I may have a bite, "Dr.".
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Funny thing is, the guy swears he's a doctor. :lol:
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Levels.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    :lol:

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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :loel:
     
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  12. The Long Count

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    Morrison looked dreadful the night he fought Lewis. He was extremely lethargic. A shell of the fighter he was a few years earlier. Truth be told no one knows for sure when exactly he contracted HIV, only that he was positive for the Lewis bout. His last reliable test for HIV was before his bout with Foreman in 1993. After Bentt beat him, his dedication and career waned. Morrison fought low level competition until defeating a nearly shot Ruddock was just enough for Tommy to be thrown into one last big fight. Even at his best Tommy was an exciting fighter, with poor stamina, poor defense and poor dedication. Word at the time leading up to the Lewis bout was that Morrison was smoking crack and sleeping with Atlantic City Prostitutes. Not the condition you want to be in before a major bout.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Morrison was documented as covering up that the had HIV before he even turned pro. It came out in a case where his widow, also an AIDS denialist, tried to sue someone for saying that he had it. He didn't test positive earlier in his career because few of the athletic commissions were testing for it.
     
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  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I’m not sure how reliable a person Morrison was at telling the truth. Not saying he was lying, maybe he did have it before he turned pro, but we don’t know. I will say he clearly looked sharper earlier in his career, and pretty bad overall from the Bentt fight on.
     
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  15. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I haven't watched the fight in a long time, but Lewis absolutely dwarfed Morrison. Tommy couldn't do anything with Lennox, plus Lennox looked savage in that fight, like he really wanted to hurt him. I think he did in fact because Morrison blew that huge payday by taking that tuneup fight against Bennt, so both fighters were getting paid less and Lewis wanted to make him pay for taking the Bennt fight.
     
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