Why did Mosely take 6 blood test and Floyd didn't?

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  1. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The USADA protocol is what it is. Some people may have an issue with it but it is perfectly fair. I have never heard of or heard so many people consider the prospect of giving blood actually weakening an athlete before a competition until Pacquiao imagined himself 'weakened' by a blood test. If he had won the fight, I wonder if he'd still hold that perspective and if he never brought that up, I wonder if some people on this thread would still think complete randomness in the testing method is unfair.
     
  2. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Synchronized swimmers aren't punching each other in the ****en face and body with devastating blows. :deal
     
  3. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, I'm "agreeing" because I wasn't stupid enough to read my own interpretation into Olympic Style Random Drug testing that involved something other than just that...truly random drug testing on a per athlete basis.

    If Floyd had been tested more, and hell, maybe he was ("at least" does not mean "exactly") we wouldn't have even heard about this **** and you dipshits would look for another red herring to chase.
     
  4. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, that would make sense. Shane could be expressing even with the drug tests you felt the power right? Shane had a smile on his face.
     
  5. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was never purported. USADA style testing is random. No competitor knows when its going to occur nor is it synchronized.
     
  6. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you suspect that the organization is cheating anyway then why would you trust them to be truthful about how many tests they administer? If you trust them, then you trust them to do it properly randomly, and if you don't trust them then they will just lie about how many tests they performed on the favored fighter.
     
  7. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well let see what the *****s got to say if floyd was put at disadvantage and lost. Guarantee you we will hear different tune on ESB. :good
     
  8. eko718

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    That's precisely what it sounded like to me as I posted earlier.

    Makes alot of sense. He almost had Floyd out on his feet. Why would he believe his power was 'sapped' as someone else suggested he said?
     
  9. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rugby players run full force into each other without the benefit of padding of any sort. They do it. Football players do it. Olympic wrestlers do it. The UFC has even started doing it.

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=11164&zoneid=13

    "NJACB representative Nick Lembo said “random blood testing (was) conducted for some contestants prior to the night of the event,” and that the fighters that were blood tested all passed as well."

    Practically every major sport does it, or is moving towards it, except boxing.
     
  10. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Floyd ever claims that he lost of a fight because of one blood test I will personally never post here again. Likewise, I will never make any such claim. Feel free to save this post for a future even that will never, ever occur.

    Unlike Manny, Floyd isn't enough of a headcase to lose because he has the wrong socks, or he's missing his precious fluids. Half the people in this thread sound like Dr. Strangelove.
     
  11. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The night before!? For the UFC!!!???? Ooooh how frightening....
     
  12. Knives7

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    I don't see how Pacquiao got into this thread but, Mosley said on 24/7 "I can see why this is disturbing someone's training." Of course I'm paraphrasing. You can literally see that Mosley was uncomfortable with this random blood testing.
     
  13. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a miracle any of them survived.
     
  14. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also said he was glad to take them so there would be no questions and Pacquiao should just man up and take the tests as well.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    That's the thing- I really don't trust 'em, because too many fighters can slip through the cracks through untestable substances or educated timing, and there is and always will be human error and corruption among the lab and sanctioning organization on top of it.

    I'm jaded about the entire topic, really. The money behind both Pac and Floyd guarantees they wouldn't get busted because neither of them would be dumb enough to be on something that could get them caught. We won't know if either man was on anything unless their high-grade PED supplier gets popped down the road, ala Shane Mosley. The testing won't catch either of them now.

    The major reason I support Manny going through the testing? It's solely because I'm a selfish fight fan who's not afraid to admit it. I view the Olympic-style testing as a benefit simply because it's a means to an end, and I really, really, really want to see Pac-Floyd. The way I see it, there's no scenario in this that results in one good guy and one bad guy. Either both guys get over themselves and make the fight and are the good guys, or it falls through and both of them are tarnished by it.