Why did Muhammad Ali disrespect Frazier so much?

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  1. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    [url]http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/37158310/[/url]

    And here, some proof he faked.(Not about Frazier but Patterson though)
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    Freelaw in the classic forum. Not too shabby. :hat

    Even though I'm tired on this subject like most of us-let's not pretend that what Ali was doing with Frazier was tantamount to his schtick with all his other opponents. It was not just another day at the office. It crossed over from the show business side of the sport (his usual Washerwoman, Frankenstein, twinkle in the eye insults) to being a sleazy ******* with no excuse. He did wrong, he knows it, most of us know it. He made mistakes, apologised, and then he grew the **** up, end of story.
     
  3. ThinBlack

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    Muhammad knew that Joe was the type of man he could never be, grew up in the Devil's Den in the deep south and dealt with stuff he never had to face.
     
  4. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali was an *******...Joe gave him money...and he helped him get back into boxing...he treated Joe like ****...no need for it...promotion or not...
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Cosign.

    Frazier had a quiet confidence and genuine belief in himself. The kind of confidence only the great fighters had. Ali sensed that. He tried to shake Frazier up by turning black folks against him.

    It backfired for the most part. Joe Frazier used it as fuel to train harder. He went after Ali like a Pit Bull
     
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    Wonderful expression on his face there. 'Oh ****'
     
  7. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali turned off his emotions when he had too.

    Personally I think he was scared
     
  8. dyna

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    Frazier had really defined legs
     
  9. Monte Fisto

    Monte Fisto Active Member Full Member

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    ali was a talented jackass. never saw frazier as a keynote speaker at a clan rally did ya? Ali was the ultimate uncle tom.
    Frazier was a solid dude who did his job and kept out of the spotlight.
     
  10. Trail

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    Press pic. Staged.
     
  11. Waynegrade

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    As much as I loved Ali, he crossed the line with Frazier. truth is Frazier, was helpful to Ali while in exile, either money or keeping him in the loop. That house negro bull**** is absurd. Much like Bryant Gumbel`s words like, `Is Frazier a white champ in black skin`. Not only was Frazier physically blacker than Ali. He never forgot his roots either. He was a proud fighter and proud of who he was, And he had a keen awareness of where he came from. A lot of what Ali did was to get under Frazier`s skin and unnerve him a bit. But, it was in genuine condescending manner. Frazier never tried to pass himself off as anything other than himself. he was equal with everyone. Ali insulted his blackness right down to Frazier`s physical features. And without question he truly felt that Frazier was beneath him ...
     
  12. Waynegrade

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    Ali got mean with Patterson and Terrell too. But, not at the level he did with Frazier.
     
  13. janitor

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    I think there was more than one reason to be honest.

    There was the psychological warfare aspect as others have aluded to and that was very important.

    I think that he also saw himself as a victim at this point, and saw Frazier as the figurehead of those who were against him.

    On top of that, there is the straight fact that he was a hothead, who tended to speak first and think later.
     
  14. Monte Fisto

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    Frazier was the exact opposite of what was against ali. SMOKIN JOE was just a badass brotha who didnt want to be bothered
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    I think Ali felt slighted that he had been discarded without losing his title and saw Frazier as an imposter put there by the white authorities who needed putting in his place.

    Frazier was a bit of a cry baby over it all really and people pander to that and feel sorry for him. He got called a few names and talked **** to by an opponent that he was trying to physically ruin, while making money most can only dream of.

    The main reason Frazier was so bitter about Ali was because the fights with Ali were the peak of his life and he had no life or achievement after this, alongside the fact he lost the series. Everyone has someone to blame for life being **** instead of looking in the mirror, Frazier blamed Ali.