Why did Pacquiao change his mind and agree to testing?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Blud_Shot_Eyez, Aug 23, 2010.


  1. spion

    spion Active Member Full Member

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    Why was there a drug test point of contention from Floyd in the first place? He has made a career recently of fighting guys that have had to move up from lower weight classes to fight him. How come with possibility of fighting Pacquiao has it been mandatory to take a blood test to fight and now even THAT isn't enough. I would like to ask Floyd....Floyd can you beat Pacquiao? Ok you believe you can. Do you believe you can beat him if he was taking some sort of steriod? Someone in his camp is definitely worried about Manny.
     
  2. Nay_Sayer

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    Answer the question; Why did your hero walk on the 14 day cutoff only to fight that travesty of a "fight" with Clottey only to then change his mind on the 14 day cutoff?

    WTF?!?

    Once you're done gargling the Pacquiao jizz - maybe you could explain the above...
     
  3. Nay_Sayer

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    Because professional athletes use performance enhacing drugs, Genius.

    James Toney
    Roy Jones
    Evander Holyfield
    Marion Jones

    Just to name a few.


    Plus, your guy is SUSPECT like the FBI's Ten Most Wanted.
     
  4. Blud_Shot_Eyez

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    Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out why this dude changed his mind. He stood firm on not accepting the 14 day cut off. Saying it weakened him, and he didn't want to give in to Mayweather's demands. Even though Mayweather comprimised and gave in to Pac's demands.

    So now all of a sudden, the blood test doesn't weaken him and he's giving in to Mayweather's demands?

    It's beginning to look like they ducked Mayweather the first time around because if he's willing to accept the 14 day cut off he should of accepted it when it was the only stipulation keeping this fight from happening.

    I see why Mayweather is saying "Random" up until the day of the fight because that leaves no room for Pacquiao to play anymore games.

    If you want to fight, agree to testing up until the day of the fight. And we know Floyd's asking price is going to go up now that he double Pac's pay per view numbers.

    Arum took a gamble and it didn't pay off..... looks like it backfired.

    Mayweather goes on to dominate the best WW and did over 1 mill pay per view buys.



    All in all it looks like Arum/Pacquiao ducked Floyd, thinking that they could out sell Floyd in PPV numbers. When they failed, they came back to the negotiating table and admitted they screwed up and wanted what was on the table the first time around. Floyd says "nope" and it's time for new terms since I had to end up fighting and beating up on Sugar Shane Mosely who was the top WW and doubling Pac's pay per view numbers.
     
  5. PeteDawg

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    Whether Floyd Jr. agreed to whatever terms is IRRELVENT. What the TERMS are is the relevent part. The accusations of steroids have come from one source. The same source that has sabotaged the second attempt at staging this fight.

    I forget is Mayweather a laywer or is he a paid professional boxer? The commission is in charge of the scoring, integrity of the bout and other rules they set. No commission has even come close to accusing or putting a dark cloud of Pacquiao when it comes to PED's. He isn't associated with any BALCO type companies like Mosley was. The fact that the same person who made the UNSUBSTANTIATED claim is the same person asking for the EXTRA testing should speak volumes to the people that have an ability to comprehend whats going on here.

    Any term asked in negotiations (IMO) should have to do with something stratgic or tactical such as ring size, weight (as long within the division), glove size etc...etc...etc... That is something within the bounds. IMO again, what Mayweather asked was tantamount of saying "I don't think the bout will be scored correctly let's have 6 judges or the list of refs you want to use treat me unfairly, let's have two ref's in the ring." It would sound stupid or EVASIVE, just like the Pretty One asking for OSDT. Something he hasn't asked for any of the fighters that FACED him before, for all we know as much Mayweather has indirectly trashed the commissions he's already faced and survived a boxer on PED's.

    If the New Orlean Saints went to the Indianpolis Colts and told them "Although we ABSOLUTELY have NO PROOF, we aren't going to play the SuperBowl until you pass the Drug Tests we demand", the NFL would have given the Saints "a proverbial **** YOU play the game."

    So just take the damn FIGHT Floyd Jr, you've already proclaimed yourself one of the best fighters ever...Pacquiao is a ONE DIMENSIONAL fighter... It should be easy, RIGHT????
     
  6. Blud_Shot_Eyez

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    Why did Pacquiao change his mind on testing?

    One month, he's like it weakens me

    A few months later, ok, 14-days is good enough. They could have done that the first time around.


    Why the change?
     
  7. DobyZhee

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    I think its possible that Pac was using EPO and not steroids as the mayweathers suggest.
     
  8. Knives7

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    :? Pacquiao was outperformed? Outdrawn, yes but he was fighting Clottey. That fight drew 700K+ with barely any promotions. So in other words he doesn't wanna fight.

    Funny how the other Mayweather fans can't answer the question.
     
  9. Knives7

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    The Mayweather's are suggesting that Pacquiao is using A-side-meth. :deal
     
  10. Knives7

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    That's most likely why he's taking a vacation right now.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    This is like if you're negotiating for a nice car, the car is advertised at 70grand but the dealer tried to sell it to you for 80grand. You tell him that you'll give him 75 Grand and he says no he won't sell it for any less than 78Grand.

    You really need a car and don't wanna overpay this one, so you tell the dealer to **** off and go to another deal and buy a lesser car for 45Grand. Then after you drive it you say "**** this car is not good enough for me" so you get rid of it and go back to the first dealer and tell him: "**** it, even though its not the real value, I'll pay you 78 Grand for the car." Then he says "No, I want the full 80 Grand now".

    And you're like "man do you want to sell this car or not?"

    He says "Of course I wanna sell this car!"

    So you say "Ok, I'll pay you 80G and lets make this happen"

    and he's like "Sorry, I'm closed, I'm going on vacation."
     
  12. Breakdown

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    The Mayweather going on vacation thing right? Yes you're right! Definitely the biggest duck and lamest excuse in boxing history.
     
  13. spion

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    We all know about other athletes using. De La Hoya knocked out Vargas and after the fight Vargas tested positive for steroids. Didn't stop Oscar from knocking him out. Floyd has a way of avoiding guys like Margarito and Cotto when they look like they could be trouble. Floyd doesn't want to go toe to toe with someone where he might have to gut it out, get cut, get up off the deck and fight back. He wants to keep that undefeated record in tact without being tested by the current best in the division. Now we have Don King trying to step in and convince Floyd to fight! Never has it been so difficult to convince a man to do his job. The job that HE CLAIMS to be the very best ever at AND where he will get paid millions to do it!
    Fight fans all over the world including Mayweather fans want this fight, but it is Floyds ass in the ring in front of MILLIONS of people that is the daunting aspect of this fight. He could win or he could lose. He could get knocked out, cut up, have to gut out a war, but that is boxing. You take risks and you fight the best and no one can ever question your courage or your place in history.
    Mayweather has to step up because he is losing respect from his own fans who are finding it difficult to rep him anymore.
     
  14. Samski313

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    Because 14 days then was a compromise to Pac's 30 days!!!! Floyd always wanted Random up until the fight homeboy!!!


    Now tell me why the fight was killed because of 14 days then and now 14 days is ok?
     
  15. Blud_Shot_Eyez

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    ^Yeah that's what I've been trying to figure out.

    I wish someone would ask Pacquiao why he changed his mind.... I sure would like to know. If you're agreeing to it now then why didn't you agree to it then when it was on the table? It must've not been that big of a deal because if it was then he would've never changed.

    A question for all involved in this debate:

    It's like, you're about to hit Beyonce raw dog but she wants you to take an HIV test to make sure you're negative.

    Would you

    A) Take the test to prove you're HIV negative and then smash it?

    B) Pass up the chance to smash it because your feelings are hurt because she wants you to get tested for HIV? She's willing to get tested too just to make sure you both are clean.

    C) Say forget it, I've slept around and I'm not sure if I'm positive or not so I'll just go smash someone that's not going to require me to get tested, even though she may not be as pretty as Beyonce?


    Now what would you do?