Why did Pacquiao lose to a shot Morales?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Mar 7, 2008.


  1. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Why wouldn't anyone bash the hell out of you when your saying stupid things like Pac losing to tomato cans? What EXACTLY does that prove? Honestly you don't wanna get into a debate with me regarding tomato cans. I can easily name ALOT of great boxers(even ATG, mind you), who also lost to tomato cans early in their boxing careers. But look what happened to them after those losses. There's actually a word for that Uli, umm... I don't know, its probably called IMPROVING! So no, that line of argument is VERY WEAK.

    And again, the bottom line is whether or not EM was shot is completely irrelevant. That "shot" EM that Pac lost to would've also beaten MOST fighters in the division. So no, its not a disgrace to Pac for losing to a Morales who, while past his prime, was still 1 of the BEST.

    Please read my first post, and reply to it if you actually have the guts to defend you opinion. Since its obvious that alot of people regard what you say as very subjective, despite you saying that your just being "objective" :lol: Its okay man, EM's one of the best fighters of our generation, don't feel let down just because your countryman lost.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    EM is not my country man. I

    My argument is that Pac is vastly overrated. He is compared to JCC, SRR, SRL, Duran, and many other greats who Pac couldn't even carry their jock strap. That's my argument. He beat a couple of legends and you're right Morales at that point could have beat many 130 pounders, maybe.

    This is how overrated pac is. He had JMM down three times on the verge of winning by KO (credit to his natural god given freakish power), hurt, bleeding and busted up. He then went on to get dominated. Yet many regard Pac as the next Robinson and others say he would beat Hatton and Mayweather:rofl . Based on what? Based on his win over Barrera and Morales, two battle worn legends past their prime and at the twilight of their careers. Pac won fair and square but to say he is a legend for doing that is like saying Ruiz is a legend for beating Holyfield.
     
  3. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    next Robinson? who said that? :huh

    beating hatton might be possible but beating mayweather is a long shot.. not all manny pac fans are deluded nuthuggers.. remember that..
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. loui_ludwig

    loui_ludwig Member Full Member

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    Morales deserved the win against Pac, it was fair and square.

    You have to question why did Morales wants Pac to wear Winning gloves in their first fight. Is it that he knew Pac has good punching power. In the 2nd round of the 2nd fight, Pac landed a punch that cause EM to go back but held onto the ropes. If he did not hold on, it would have been a knockdown. Remember this is only the 2nd round.

    The cut in Pac's eye, it is accidental, not intentional. Did it affect him? Yes. Some say the cut did not make a diffirence, but if you look at Juan Diaz(against Nate C) and others, cuts in the eye(bleeding continouly) will affect how a fighter fights.

    Morales said he watched the Pac-JMM fight and studied it on his fight with Pac. Did it work? Well you know the result of the 1st fight.

    I am not saying its a guarrante that Pac would have won the 1st fight if he has no cut and wearing Cleto Reyes. I am saying the outcome might be a wn for Pac, a draw, or Morales still winning.

    Like i said, Morales won fair and square.
     
  6. loui_ludwig

    loui_ludwig Member Full Member

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    Then you should know that there are Mexican fans and Pac haters in boxing forums doing the same thing towards Pac and Pac fans.

    Jones hurt Barrera bad when MAB's corner went into the ring.