Why did Pacquiao refuse random drug testing for the Mayweather fight in 2010?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Why? The guy was far more limited and flawed back then. Couldn't figure out how not to get hit by JMM's right hand and still would have no answer for PBF's ability to control range and dictate distance on him and he would be fighting a prime PBF whose reflexes and speed and legs were still there. PBF would have beaten Pac back then possibly stopping him because Pac was reckless as hell back then.
     
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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh please...didn't know ho not to get hit??? There isn't a single boxer alive who has fought and NOT been hit many times. Even Floyd.
    Pac was much more explosive. That and WW being hot are why Floyd faked his retirement for two years.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    That has nothing to do with it. How is Pac going to deal with PBF's ability to control range and dictate distance on him? That has always been the key to this fight and the reason why Pac can't beat him. On top of that the 2009 version was way more reckless and flawed. PBF to was more explosive in 2009 than he was when they fought 2015
     
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't rely on being 'explosive' Pimp. You know that. He never has. he relied on his skillset, speed, and brain. Pac who beat Cotto beats Floyd. But Floyd decided to run off....fake retire.
    You can live in denial, but the whole world saw floyd pretend to retire when his WW division was at it's best.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Stop! You don't even believe that. Please address my point about PBF controlling range and dictating distance on Pac that is the critical point here because Pac has no answer for it not some made up BS about PBF retiring to get out of fighting Pac that's troll nonsense. Be serious please and address the point.
     
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  6. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pac of 2008-2012 was much more ferocious, relentless, and unpredictable. You needed serious firepower to take him out like with JMM's roided planet-destroying nuke.

    Given that Floyd planned and landed 2 flush shots on Victor Ortiz and didn't KO him cold, him stopping Pac would have been the least likely outcome.

    Pac was a different animal, plain and simple. And prime Pac with his feet was ridiculously fast, explosive, and effective at closing the distance.
     
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  7. Pimp C

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    Could be but Pac was reckless and flawed coming in off balanced foot in the air is a recipe for disaster against a prime PBF. His accurate right hand and clean counters would put a stop to that type of behavior rather quickly.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude...Floyd can control range. Of course. But that means to you he'll ALWAYS control it? Every second of the fight?? That's not reality pimp. Pac's speed and angles would have cause issues at times whether you believe that or not. Which is why many articles came out saying Floyd would wait for Pac to slow more. Which he absolutely did.

    You want me to be serious, and yet YOU tried to say Floyd was SHOT when he beat Pac. If you actually think floyd was shot....LOG OFF. :lol:

    You want to step in reality....i'll gladly follow and hold the door open for you and follow.
     
  9. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you bow down to your accusers demands? I don’t. Come with facts first. Floyd didn’t. He said Manny cheated his way up. “He’s doing things nobody has ever done before”. Like what exactly? From what I can remember only one guy said he was the only one who won 5 titles in 5 divisions in less than 10 years. Nobody had ever done that before. So why wasn’t Floyd doing any testing before that? The whole thing regarding these tests is phony anyways. Floyd never did random testing in any of his fights before then or after.
     
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  10. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’ve always thought that Cotto and Margarito, on the night they fought each other, had either one fought Floyd that night instead, give him a serious run for his money. Neither guy was going to be paused by pot shotting Floyd.
     
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  11. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

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    Please define “Olympic style drug testing”. All I see is a fancy phrase for “fake”.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Of course Pac will have his moments I never said he wouldn't. With that said they would be fewer as PBF controlled the pace and the center of the ring being the ring general in the fight. Pac would end up fighting PBF's fight because PBF will control the range and dictate distance on Pac. It's not like Pac is a guy who cuts the ring who will sell out to get inside and try to maul and rough up PBF he likes to fight clean and at mid range which PBF can fight comfortably at against Pac or take a step back when he will still be in range to hit Pac but Pac won't be able to hit him or fight off his back foot working behind a jab being first and moving piling up points. PBF's ability to fight at more ranges than Pac can't be overlooked outside he can really go to work inside he can work and bully the smaller pac to. Another thing to consider is that unlike JMM, PBF isn't there to be hit which will frustrate the hell outta Pac. If I had to make a prediction on this fight back in 2009 it would be PBF by UD.
     
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  13. iii

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    Didn't really see floyd controlling range ...or anything for that matter in maidana 1 ...
     
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  14. Pimp C

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    You can win rounds by sticking and moving you don't need to hurt anyone to put on a clinic and win a boxing match.
     
  15. Pimp C

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    PBF was cut early in that fight, Maidana was willing to sell out to get inside and go to work roughing up and fouling PBF Pac doesn't fight anything like Maidana. When PBF recovered from the cut he took over. He also beat Maidana going away in the rematch.