Why did Prince Naseem Hamed retire?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Typical:-(
     
  2. DINAMITA

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    I don't think the mock-hump was DQ worthy either, but I can't distinguish between that and the MAB-Hamed incident. Tasteless horseplay, there's no place for it.
     
  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I'm going to steal that for me next Hamed article. :good
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    cleaned out the division? he didnt clean out morales, barerra , or juan manuel marquez

    better yet, he QUIT after his first ass kicking. regardless of whether 2 judges had it close....barerra chased his ass all night, and it wasnt that close.....
     
  5. blackpage

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    Pretty sure I've seen Naz body slam an opponent, so I can't say I feel bad. Marco spoke to hamed in a language he could understand. Nas was trying to bully Barrera and got bullied himself. After Barrera stood up to him his aura of invincibility was gone. Manuel Calvo gave him all he could handle after that, so he decided it was easier to just go home and be a prince. Whoever pointed out that this fight was much closer than remembered is right on. Basically it was even at the halfway point, far from a domination.
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    One fight is just that; one fight. It doesn't prove everything you've ever believed about a fighter, it doesn't predict the future, or discredit the past. Had Hamed stuck around for a few more years and rematched MAB, and fought the EM's, JMM's and Manny Pac's of this world, sure he would have lost a few, but he would have won some also.
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Hamed beat every title holder in the division. He cleaned it out. Tell me what JMM was doing when Hamed was a three time world champion?
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I'm in favour of a sexual assault charge, personally. :D
     
  9. DINAMITA

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    :lol:
     
  10. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As ar as the subject matter goes, I agree with what Dinamita said about the MAB defeat shattering Naz's ego.

    Regarding the article, I agree with a lot of what DJM said. I'd have liked to hear more about the splits with Warren and Ingle, and more about the religeous turn he took. I wasn't really a Naz an when he was fighting (I thought he was good, I just thought he was too arrogant,) so I don't remember those kind of things about him. You could look up the details of his fights on Boxrec if you really wanted so I wouldn't give those as much space.

    In general though, reading the article you wouldn't have thought it was (one of?) the first you had written.
     
  11. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hamed made huge money an for a little man especially. He was exciting ,the desire to fight just left.
     
  12. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two things jump to mind with Hamed. One, he had a massive ego. Two, he always played that Allah card claiming that God was behind him.

    Big egos are prevalent in boxing but Hamed's was near in a league of its own. He thought himself invincible and was totally shattered by the way he was defeated.

    And I would think that the outcome of a boxing match is way down on God's list of concerns.
     
  13. bill poster

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    Loved to have seen him fight Pac. Well, he could still come out of retirement and sell out arenas at 35-36
     
  14. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "In fact, the seeds of Hamed’s discontent had been sown as early as 1998. Hamed’s gloomy demeanour in the build up to the fight with Vasquez wasn’t in keeping with flamboyant stars outgoing personality. "

    A number of paragraphs later:
    "Perhaps this had worn Hamed’ infectious enthusiasm down to the bone; see the Vasquez fight press conference where Hamed seems deeply disinterested in proceedings."

    Just a sort of organizational thing - get all the points you want to make straight in your mind and group them together within the text.

    If you'd like some editing comments some time, go ahead and PM me. I know grammar/punctuation isn't everyone's strong suit.

    [Incidentally, the quotes above have some typo corrections to be done. But, the semi-colon in the second one isn't too bad; a dash may be more appropriate, though. Yeah, it's picky, but it's the nature of the beast.]
     
  15. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By fighters' comments, you'd think it was about all he did. "And on the seventh day, God oversaw boxing matches. And on the eighth and ninth..."