why did roy jones an jc never fought in thier primes

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  1. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roy knows that Calzaghe has become 'the man' by outpointing his arch rival Bernard Hopkins...................while Roy himself is left chasing a fight with Calzaghe in Cardiff.

    Surely if Roy had known this would happen..............he'd have seriously called Calzaghe out and dealt with Hopkins back in the day?
     
  2. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roy is basically begging for a fight with Calzaghe now..............he's a proud man and that must niggle him a little.

    Knowing that he could have fought Calzaghe and Hopkins 5 - 10 years ago and probably schooled them both.
     
  3. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    Its an odd question for me to answer because i dont think this would have happened "back in the day" JC never beats a prime Hopkins so Jones would still have not paid him any attention
     
  4. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  5. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe had trouble getting on Showtime let alone HBO, hi risk, low reward fight back then unfortunately.
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    No he wouldn't have. Don't get it twisted her man...Roy beat Hopkins in his prime, Calzaghe beat the a 43yr old version who can't even make middleweight anymore or fight hard for a full fight.....not the same guy.


    Let me illustrate how silly this is. Say Floyd goes a few 5 more years and then loses a couple of fights. He falls from grace and is now trying to rebuild his career. Simultaneously Amir Kahn is still undefeated, has since moved up to WW and is now the world champ. Floyd after getting a couple of wins over nobodies calls out Kahn. Do you think Floyd Mayweather then, would be regretting not calling out Kahn back in '08 when he was the P4P #1, not even in the same weight class and the majority of America didn't know who the hell he was????
     
  7. clubberlang

    clubberlang Active Member Full Member

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    Not a troll here but a serious question.

    How come Roy Jones is never questioned for not going out of the states to fight challengers but Calzaghe is always criticised particularly by americans for not fighting in the US?
    There are plenty of fighters he could have a la Benn, Eubanks,Calzaghe,DM so why didn't he do it?
    Both are champions so whats the difference? I'm not saying its right or wrong but the irony of statements made by people on here is mad!
    I think Jones was a great figher by the way.
     
  8. maximumsg

    maximumsg Active Member Full Member

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    both fighters are were and always will be scared to loose.
     
  9. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmmmm, not sure that is a fair comparison actually.

    Mayweather is 31, and Khan is still a few fights from winning the world title. A fight between them is completely off the radar.

    However, Jones was 28 when Calzaghe won the super middleweight title in 1997. A Jones - Calzaghe fight could have been made 1998-2003 when Jones was still in his prime.

    If Jones knew what he knows now.................he'd have made the fight with Calzaghe 1998-2003.

    Instead Calzaghe is 'the man' and Jones is the challenger...........chasing a fight, having to go to Cardiff etc.
     
  10. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you think, if Jones knew what he knows now..................he'd have done things the same way?

    That is absurd. Jones could have fought Calzaghe 1998 - 2003. Calzaghe beat some decent American fighters (Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell) in that period and was undefeated..............making him a credible opponent.

    Jones was in his prime and probably would have beaten Calzaghe comfortably back then.

    Now, Roy is pushing 40, chasing a fight in Cardiff that he may not even get and is more than likely to lose badly if he does get.

    If Roy knew then what he knows now................he'd have done everything in his power to MAKE the fight with Calzaghe somewhere around 1998-2003.
     
  11. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    I think Roy Jones never wanted to leave US because of what happened in the Olympics, and anyways he was the champion, it is Calzaghe's responsability to challenge the champion, just like Roy Jones is doing right now.
     
  12. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    pretty much. made no sense for RJ at the time
     
  13. clubberlang

    clubberlang Active Member Full Member

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    PNGO - sorry havent learned how to edit your previous post in yet!

    Thats fair enough but Calzaghe has been a champion for ten years though so not really a challenger although maybe an unknown quantity in the states through that time.

    Was he robbed in the olympics then?
     
  14. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Perhaps Jones should have paid Calzaghe more attention back then. Calzaghe's career is coming to a close quite nicely............while Jones was superman :boxx:boxer for a decade (at least) but now.................:-(
     
  15. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Calzaghe was more of a title holder, Roy Jones was the real champion, and yes Roy Jones got robbed bigtime in the olympics.